I would take top 8 as a successful season given where we started and the injury issues we’ve had.
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Manager Thomas Frank
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Took us from 8th to 5th, back into Europe and won the bloody thing! Finished 17th but stil found a way to get us back in the champions league.Now you're definitely off your trolley.
Ange spent over £400m and took us from 5th to 17th ffs
All while blooding some of our most exciting prospects we have in our team now.
Having to use Foster in goal, Davies as a CB... A 18 year old Gray at CB for half the season.
The guy had a vision for our club and was backing up all his talk. He deserved to have this season and everyone calling for him to be sacked, talking nonsense about Frank, now have to face it was the WRONG decision.
LOL they came in when Postecoglou was manager. Frank has been given two players, and 2 loanees.
Postecoglou got much more backing than Frank. That might change as time passes but Simons has been pretty shit and Palhinha is the least complete player I've seen in a long time. And he got Kudus from the mighty West Ham.
Honestly dude, just admit you're wrong about this claim and move on. VDV and Maddison are more than Frank has got on their own, nothing as good in comparison.
You're simply wrong with this, your best bet now is to either admit you're wrong or stay quiet, I sure as hell ain't going to continue to fight a battle that I've already won.
Sounds like the Ange pull helped bring those players in then I guess? Rather than all the rejections we faced this summer?
VDV was an unknown until he was bought. Everyone on this forum was twerking for Paulinha and Kudus as well as Xavi.
Regardless of whether they're loans - they're top, experienced internationals who most were excited for. I'd argue most of those signings seem underwhelming because the football we're playing this season is dreadful - backed up by the stats.
Heaven forbid! A centre back at centre back
I'm sure we're all very bored of hearing how Ange wasn't completely shit because the wind was blowing in an unfair direction
Perhaps you can pop along to the Forest forums and convinced them with xG stats.
Yeah i get it mate, it feels like hes only a couple of bad results away from getting sacked especially if the fans get more disillusioned.
January is a huge month we'll see how we come out the end of it and if hes still here, I guess
Don't worry, it's the same old vacant definition of "backing the manager" that Poch had.
e.g. the manager wasn't backed unless all the players turned into superstars
But of course that's a catch 22 when the manager thinks coaching is getting a bus to the match.
I'd go as low as 9th with "clear improvement towards back end of season" but yours is a fair take for sure
1) establish a blueprint that shows a forward thinking style of play
2) intergrate young players
3) make an effort towards addressing our weakness in midfield (a lack of a passing conductor) - as proof that he understands what was needed to achieve (1)
4) Pure results, barring a disaster become an afterthought, as long as he showed he is laying foundations.
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Frank has failed at 1) his style of play is awful and he thinks he is still at Brentford.
2) very meh. Seemed to have tilted towards Gray recently but he must have Bentancur/Palhinha on the pitch by law.
3) signed Palhinha. Sackable offence and showed he was aiming for 10th not 5th.
4) he’s not developing much, he’s just trying to survive game-by-game. If you want to play that ugly, then you better win.
I imagine him looking over at the new stadium with that wanting expression that is used by Gollum when he thinks of his precious ring.
I said at the time he was an utterly uninspiring signing that showed a total lack of ambition...and got absolutely slaughtered for it
Everyone was making out he was some kind of coup!
This place is really weird sometimes.
What is Ftank going to add is the question, even if we take that leap into the future, based on what he has done with us so far, and what anyone can sense with the players?
I was right there with you. Hideously overrated player just because “he gets stuck in”. The excuses that are made for him is hilarious.I said at the time he was an utterly uninspiring signing that showed a total lack of ambition...and got absolutely slaughtered for it
Everyone was making out he was some kind of coup!
This place is really weird sometimes.
Him and Manuel Ugarte are twins - that’s why they both only lasted 12 months at real top clubs.
That’s what I’m scared of. His outlook is pure Brentford. If Palhinha and Danso long throws were the answer, what’s the question?
Yes it was that bad and a cheap shot!
No idea if you have ever played the game seriously but that sort of challenge should be outlawed and it was more of a red than Xavi’s imv
IMO Palinha isn't being used correctly. As someone else said he's the water carrier. His job IS to get stuck in, break the up play, win the ball and play it to one of the other two mids. Their job is then to create.
Listening to some of the players during preseason interviews it seemed like Frank firstly wanted the team to become very difficult to score against, and it's probably why he wanted Palhinha, but we're still relatively easy to score against and Palhinha doesn't really have another useful attribute.I said at the time he was an utterly uninspiring signing that showed a total lack of ambition...and got absolutely slaughtered for it
Everyone was making out he was some kind of coup!
This place is really weird sometimes.
So may as well play Gray there because at least he has more than one string on his banjo.
Iraola is a better fit for us than Glasner IMO.
Glasner's palace play in a similar way to franks Brentford.
The style of football is important to spurs fans we need a front footed manager not Glasner who is more a counter attacking guy
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So we've gone from "any half decent manager will have us flying up the table" to "the right manager will get us up the table"
Well I think we can all agree on that. Because it's quite the climb down from the original claim.
Frank clearly wasn’t half decent.