• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Manager Thomas Frank

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

Are you Frank Out or In?


  • Total voters
    623
Opta.

averaging most distance covered - Kulu (1st) son (11th)

Most sprints per 90 - Son (ranks 13th overall)

Most time spent walking - Romero (3rd overall)

None of our players feature in the top 20 longest time spent sprinting per 90 - which spells the myth that Spurs were sprinting way more that other teams.

The whole sprinting causes injuries thing was hilarious.

As if every team in the league isn’t trying to dominate every intensity stat to win more games… LOL at everyone who bought into that.

You know what might lead to an injury crisis?
Having half-baked, understaffed and inept medical team that’s been in the job less than a year already.

And guess what? We were still hiring sports medicine and sports science people during the season and now they’ve fired a bunch of them after less than a year,

Fortunately, Frank has brought his own team and they did very well with injuries last year.
 
Opta.

averaging most distance covered - Kulu (1st) son (11th)

Most sprints per 90 - Son (ranks 13th overall)

Most time spent walking - Romero (3rd overall)

None of our players feature in the top 20 longest time spent sprinting per 90 - which spells the myth that Spurs were sprinting way more that other teams.
They couldn't sprint. They were knackered from training.
 
The whole sprinting causes injuries thing was hilarious.

As if every team in the league isn’t trying to dominate every intensity stat to win more games… LOL at everyone who bought into that.

You know what might lead to an injury crisis?
Having half-baked, understaffed and inept medical team that’s been in the job less than a year already.

And guess what? We were still hiring sports medicine and sports science people during the season and now they’ve fired a bunch of them after less than a year,

Fortunately, Frank has brought his own team and they did very well with injuries last year.

Sprinting does cause injuries you mentalist.

You claim to know sports science but yet this has eluded you?
 
Opta.

averaging most distance covered - Kulu (1st) son (11th)

Most sprints per 90 - Son (ranks 13th overall)

Most time spent walking - Romero (3rd overall)

None of our players feature in the top 20 longest time spent sprinting per 90 - which spells the myth that Spurs were sprinting way more that other teams.
Sprints without the ball were off the fucking chart. Literally. They had to make the chart bigger to accomodate us.

And why was that? Because whenever we lost the ball high up the pitch, it was too often the case that the players were in ridiculous positions. So players had to sprint like fuck to cover. This was all well documented and even posted here. The guys at 442 even did podcasts on it.

But hey, yeah, Ange was the greatest, 17th was just unlucky with injuries bla bla.

That fucking fraud even got hammies at CELTIC FFS who are so far ahead of the SPL that they can pretty much coast 90% of games.
 
harry7 Richard Arlison Richard Arlison

Solanke start of last season. No Sonny to be seen.


Across the last two seasons combined - 2022/23 and 2023/24 - at Bournemouth, the striker averaged 20.1 sprints and ran 10.82km per 90 minutes.
With Spurs, who are demanding even more intensity from him, those figures have risen to 25 sprints and an average distance of 11.19km.

Forwards' sprinting stats 24/25*



[th width="75.828125px"]
Player

[/th][td width="116px"]
Mins played

[/td][td width="116px"]
Sprints

[/td]
[th width="75.828125px"]
Antoine Semenyo(BOU)

[/th][td width="116px"]
879

[/td][td width="116px"]
221

[/td]
[th width="75.828125px"]
Dominic Solanke(TOT)

[/th][td width="116px"]
709

[/td][td width="116px"]
197

[/td]
[th width="75.828125px"]
Dominic Calvert-Lewin(EVE)

[/th][td width="116px"]
829

[/td][td width="116px"]
166

[/td]
[th width="75.828125px"]
Brennan Johnson(TOT)

[/th][td width="116px"]
787

[/td][td width="116px"]
160

[/td]
[th width="75.828125px"]
Matheus Cunha(WOL)

[/th][td width="116px"]
798

[/td][td width="116px"]
146

[/td]​

*min. 500 minutes played
 
Opta.

averaging most distance covered - Kulu (1st) son (11th)

Most sprints per 90 - Son (ranks 13th overall)

Most time spent walking - Romero (3rd overall)

None of our players feature in the top 20 longest time spent sprinting per 90 - which spells the myth that Spurs were sprinting way more that other teams.

There was a massive change in our approach for the back half of the season after the injury crisis. First half of the season our sprint and pressing stats were a huge outlier, far beyond any other PL team. Then the injuries happened, we lost all the games and Ange went to a much more energy-conserving style to save our legs for the Europa.
 
Sprinting does cause injuries you mentalist.

You claim to know sports science but yet this has eluded you?

So every premier league team must be looking for every way they can to reduce the number of intense movements and sprints?

Oh wait, they aren’t. They are looking for ways to be more intense.

“Sprinting causes injuries “ you say…

It’s that simple? You read the studies?

Or you read an article on the Athletic that massively simplified the findings of fairly small sample size studies that actually needed much more context included, like travel schedule, recovery times between games, diet, total KMs ran and Aerobic loads?
 
harry7 Richard Arlison Richard Arlison

Solanke start of last season. No Sonny to be seen.


Across the last two seasons combined - 2022/23 and 2023/24 - at Bournemouth, the striker averaged 20.1 sprints and ran 10.82km per 90 minutes.
With Spurs, who are demanding even more intensity from him, those figures have risen to 25 sprints and an average distance of 11.19km.

Forwards' sprinting stats 24/25*



[th width="75.828125px"]
Player

[/th][td width="116px"]
Mins played

[/td][td width="116px"]
Sprints

[/td]
[th width="75.828125px"]
Antoine Semenyo(BOU)

[/th][td width="116px"]
879

[/td][td width="116px"]
221

[/td]
[th width="75.828125px"]
Dominic Solanke(TOT)

[/th][td width="116px"]
709

[/td][td width="116px"]
197

[/td]
[th width="75.828125px"]
Dominic Calvert-Lewin(EVE)

[/th][td width="116px"]
829

[/td][td width="116px"]
166

[/td]
[th width="75.828125px"]
Brennan Johnson(TOT)

[/th][td width="116px"]
787

[/td][td width="116px"]
160

[/td]
[th width="75.828125px"]
Matheus Cunha(WOL)

[/th][td width="116px"]
798

[/td][td width="116px"]
146

[/td]​

*min. 500 minutes played

Ok what’s the definition of a sprint in this data?

Also, Solanke is an interesting player to pick because his injury was his knee and not a soft muscle injury
 
So every premier league team must be looking for every way they can to reduce the number of intense movements and sprints?

Oh wait, they aren’t. They are looking for ways to be more intense.

“Sprinting causes injuries “ you say…

It’s that simple? You read the studies?

Or you read an article on the Athletic that massively simplified the findings of fairly small sample size studies that actually needed much more context included, like travel schedule, recovery times between games, diet, total KMs ran and Aerobic loads?

Yes it is that simple. Sprinting causes injuries.

Do you “reed” or have you “red” any studies you would like us to be aware of?

I don’t believe you work in any type of professional sport as a coach tbh. Just an internet bullshit artist. Like young Harry.
 
Sprinting does cause injuries you mentalist.

You claim to know sports science but yet this has eluded you?

Oh Brother Facepalm GIF by reactionseditor
 
I’m not collating the data am I!
But I’m guessing they got the data from Opta. That’s where most of this stuff comes from.

Like I to said young Harry aged 7 best to put up a link.

Not collating the data but happy to go along with narratives that jump to wild conclusions based on the data?

Sounds logical to me.

Injuries are complicated. Otherwise Gordon or Salah or whoever else that ended the season with the most sprints would also have spent long periods out injured. And if they were as simple as sprints = injuries clubs wouldn’t need to hire sports medicine and science experts who have PHDs and hours of experience in the field,

Sprints = injuries is a very basic narrative so morons have an easy place to blame when teams lose football matches because they have injured players.

If we’d had Liverpools injury record and won loads of games like they did under Klopp, our medical team would be lauded but because we had injuries and lost, the manager takes the blame. It’s bullshit but that’s how it is.

Anyway, the point here is that we sacked our medical team and hired Brentfords. I hope that’s a big win for us an we can be more intense physically than other teams to win more games but also avoid injuries
 
Not collating the data but happy to go along with narratives that jump to wild conclusions based on the data?

Sounds logical to me.

So unless we are collating the data ourselves we can’t reference anything out there in terms of information provided by the premier league or Opta.

Right oh. That seems like a good way to have discussions.

Let’s hope everyone on here has the time and means to collate data this season. You bellend.

Injuries are complicated.

We are saying sprinting causes injuries.

If you can’t put together the simple equation that if you are walking or jogging slowly your chances of straining your hamstring are far less than if you are sprinting for the same distance I suggest you go back to whatever university gave you your sports science degree.

I feel like I’m talking to a child. Sort yourself out.
 
So unless we are collating the data ourselves we can’t reference anything out there in terms of information provided by the premier league or Opta.

Right oh. That seems like a good way to have discussions.

Let’s hope everyone on here has the time and means to collate data this season. You bellend.



We are saying sprinting causes injuries.

If you can’t put together the simple equation that if you are walking or jogging slowly your chances of straining your hamstring are far less than if you are sprinting for the same distance I suggest you go back to whatever university gave you your sports science degree.

I feel like I’m talking to a child. Sort yourself out.


. Ok mate, you’ve completely ignored the points that might enable to see it in a different way.

If it makes you comfortable then go ahead, sprints = injuries so teams and players that sprint more are bad and eventually we can all just watch walking football
 
Back
Top