The club needs to bring an exorcist to the stadium and cast out the ghost of Postecoglou?
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The club needs to bring an exorcist to the stadium and cast out the ghost of Postecoglou?
Haha some fans could do with that.
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It’s pretty close to legitimate insanity to think that Ange has anything to do with whatever the team is doing now.
It would be equally illogical to say Ange deserves the credit for the good early results and now the positive effects of Ange are wearing off.
Both utterly bat shit crazy conclusions to reach:
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Your premise seems to be that whatever is happening is still not going to click over the next 2 months because you yourself haven't seen any evidence yet that it will.
Point made. Everyone has heard it.
Lets come back it to it after the 5/6 game run without a win, because that is not our current reality, is it?
Nuno was a bad fit before he even started the job though.
Many, myself includes weren't happy about it from day 0.
I suspect they are the same ones who want rid of Frank already.
I don’t know how many times he himself has publicly said that he isn’t happy with our attack and that we are missing all the players from last season who played there. It is almost like people aren’t based in reality that you can’t chuck a whole load of new players in a team and expect that they are gonna combine and bang in loads of goals. Even DESK took 6 to 9 months and we don’t have any players of that quality in the squad.
I was, and still am, willing to give Frank a fair go to see what he can do. I think he has earned it with the job he did at Brentford with some of the lowest wage budgets in the league year after year. And his background before coming here is not exactly comparable to Nuno's, who had benefited from an influx of Mendes talent at Wolves that made his job significantly easier than Frank's at Brentford.
That doesn't mean everybody has to share this viewpoint and that it's some kind of a cardinal sin to assume Frank to be another Nuno until proven otherwise though. And if that's the premise that they were starting with, it's no wonder that their patience is already wearing thin with him. It's exactly what happened with Nuno skeptics who, in a matter of few months, saw a manager completely out of his depth and wanted him removed.
It's a matter of people having different first impressions of Frank. People who have already rated him see a manager who's doing a quite good job despite having one of his hands tied behind his back. Those who were already skeptical to begin with see most of their concerns vindicated.
There are a few here who think that everybody has to share their positive first impression, lest they become some horrible fans who hate anything and everything that this club stands for. Absolutely ridiculous to me.
It's fully understandable that the attack would take some time to properly function. Tbh the same with the midfield as well. JP and Simons are both new to the club as well. Where a lot of people are struggling is the persistence with JP and RB when it clearly doesn't work, and demands a stumbling attack to be even more efficient than if it was a fully functioning attack, because they need to execute with even less service when the ball can't reach them.
But it does seem like he wants to stick with that pivot, I'm guessing because it reminds him of Norgaard and Yarmolyuk. The thing that worries me is that he will need to make it work better than it has so far or he's going to have to hope the attack can be more efficient with less ball than last year, even though we don't have Son and Maddison this season. He has most rational people's patience whilst he tries to get it to work but I don't think it's realistic to expect a gamechanger on the LW in January and if the team still looks like it did vs Villa and Bournemouth by the end of the season, he won't have the same levels of patience from the fans and likely not the board either.
Barring a disaster or unforeseen circumstances he will still be here on 22 October 2026. Of that I have little doubt.
Agree with the rest of what you say fwiw on the midfield. The benefit Frank has is that he is an open guy who is pragmatic and also, probably most importantly, has a good coaching staff around him.
He said in the fans forum, and has before, he came in with two initial aims. To make the team better defensively and to improve set pieces. We’ve done that. Nobody is strolling through our midfield, the team isn’t getting cut open with one pass from back to front from the opposition, fullback are no longer isolated on crosses. Plus we are better at set pieces at the moment.
Some people’s expectations arent based in reality. I suspect he was going to base most of the team’s attack around Maddison (his damsgaard) and it has hamstrung the side. Simons can’t do it (yet). Maybe he believed the medical team that Solanke would be ok? Muani hasn’t kicked a ball yet. Plus our wingers really arent good enough (and kudus needs consistency).
The midfield is being fixated on but there’s reasons why it’s being played like it is. On one had fans complained Xavi wasn’t being played as the ten, he moves him there then people complained why isn’t Sarr playing (I suspect hes got a slight injury from the collision with Muani in training). We can only play with 11 men.
The #positiveeffects of finishing on 38 points in 17th and losing your final game in charge 4-1 at home to Brighton.
Give it a fucking rest.
We lost 22 games last season and were abysmal all over the pitch in almost every game.
We are nowhere near as bad as last season.
It's night and day and as literally everyone can see, there's a) room for improvement and b) important players ton return from injury.
Ange muscle memory wearing off and the real Frank is on display 
My suspicion is that most of those already getting inpatient are still sore about Ange.
Not all of them, but a lot of them.
They were told he played good football, so they assumed they were watching good football.
The reality was, for most of his time, it was crap.
"Ooh, look how high the defence is"
While we pass side to side, out to the corner flag, back to the centre circle, side to side, back out to the corner flag. Blah blah fucking shiteball.
But because he had a reputation for managing sides that play attacking football, fans convinced themselves that's what they were seeing at Spurs.
What muscle memory?Ange muscle memory wearing off and the real Frank is on display
Useless turd didn't train anyone.
Utter nonsense.
I'm going to ensure that anyone who is starting to talk about 'Frank Out' gets binned for life.
This is literally 'growing pains'. Frank has always started slowly at his clubs, including Brentford. Grow up and get some fucking patience.
Agree with pretty much everything there and it’s common sense that this fan base needs to look at it like that but…
1. If this home form continues that is the type of disaster that no Spurs manager can survive. Thats just reality whether we like it or not. Things have changed, not only do we have a high net spend but our wage bracket is going up considerably as well. A Spurs manager will be expected to win now.
2. I think people want to see Sarr or Bergvall or Gray, WITH Palinha or Bentancur. And at the expense of one of them. No player should be untouchable, especially when the team isn’t functioning well and points are being dropped,
I do think Frank will figure it out though.
Like I said, the notion is equally mental either way but if you wanted to credit Ange for a winning mentality after the Europa League and finishing 5th in his first season with a much less talented squad, that would potentially have more credibility than saying he’s at fault for bad performances several months and a full pre season after he was sacked.
Even in this comment advising patience, you yourself are neglecting to mention thar those players weren't at that peak level when they started with us, they developed over time to become that much vaunted quartet.
Son in his first season barely did anything more than we have seen from Odobert so far, Eriksen was pretty mediocre in his first season under AVB/Sherwood.