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Manager Thomas Frank

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Yeah of course they were .. because we were on a serious dry spell. It’s like when you’ve not got any for a while and pull a fat bird mate. You don’t then go around to your mates bragging about pulling a worldie if they’ve seen her in person.

The EL was a great little win to get over the trophy hump, but glorious is the stretchiest of stretches.
Mate William of Orange basically walked into London and was handed the crown but they still call it "The Glorious Revolution" innit :D
 
That man is a buffoon. Doesn't know what he's talking about but everyone else is an idiot or not a real fan. Even though he can shit on everything else at the club, just not the manager, that's where the line is drawn.

We've given up the 14th most chances in the league. Anyone that believes we're hard to beat are straight up lying to themselves because they've blindly dig into this coach, and despite people like me who have been saying for weeks that trouble is around the corner because we've been outrageously lucky, are idiots or have an agenda.

The only agenda here is bending over backwards, making excuses for this drivel. He'll be gone in a few weeks, it's painfully obvious he's not the right for here. He might be a good coach, not here. Guaranteed the next one that comes in has them playing a semblance of football in their first game. I'll enjoy the excuses then.
I like Thomas Frank and I wanna give him more time, but mainly cause he's a decent, humble and kind man...unlike our previous manager who really was the cunt's cunt.

I do think he's a good PL manager and I respect his previous achievements. But yes, I've a feeling the Spurs job may be too big for him. I also think he's approached it in the wrong manner, actually I don't think he could've picked a worst way to go about it. It's almost like I don't recognise the Brentford manager.

But to be honest, the Spurs gig is the poisoned chalice by excellence and I genuinely reckon that even Pep, Klopp or Luis Enrique would struggle here. Cause the culture, the whole club philosophy and ethos are fucked...and have been for far too long. And our owners couldn't care less. I don't see how our Agent Gooner CEO would either.

Until everything changes, nothing changes.
 
Pal, with all due respect, we've been plenty patient. Been rebuilding since Poch departed. And it's a bit of a pisstake to ask fans for more patience when they pay the highest ticket prices in world football. And see clubs with less means outperform us. Or how our main rivals have bounced back when we were light-years ahead of them for many a season.
This club did not start rebuilding when Poch left. They should have but they tried to push on with Mourinho and conte and whatever the hell Nuno was.

Ange was the first manager that you could argue attempted to rebuild. Didn’t work and we are back at square one.

Neither highest ticket prices or frustration with where the club is heading changes the fact that this club did not rebuild anything successfully and is still heading the wrong direction.

It ain’t getting fixed in a year, no matter the manager.
 
I think Frank experiment is very evidently already a failed one. Inflated league position won't look as good once we've played everyone once.

If there was even a semblance of a plan, I'd be fine with it. Just a little glint of seeing anything progressive. But after 6 months, £200m in players brought in, we're playing like a bottom 4/5 side, and it doesn't look like anything is improving. We're giving up a huge amount of chances and creating very little. Lining up the same way, every single game, poor performance after poor performance. We were told Frank improves players, especially the attacking ones. Nearly everyone has regressed.

A decision needs to be made before the season isn't salvageable.
We have actually been lucky in certain games, not to have lost by a big margin.
Bournemouth, Monaco, Chelsea, all should have won by a bigger scoreline.
I agree though, there is nothing developing at all.
The super cup final, it all looked positive to be fair.
Now, the team is going backwards, Frank doesn't seem to know what to do.
 
Funnily enough the Villa game was our best defensive display by a considerable margin and is the template of how I hoped - and continue to hope - Frank would set us up: incredibly compact, solid and providing a platform for the rest of the team to go and win it. Which we should have.
You never played football, that's obvious.

We conceded two goals cause none of our boys had the brains nor the will to do anything about it, but yeah great defensive display.

Villa coulda scored 6 if they had their shooting boots on.
 
Also been in the stadium nearly 10 years now and have we bought a player in his peak with world class capabilities and no noy richarlison and solanke
It opened April 2019, so it would have been 6 years in April this year, Then there was the time when Premier League football was suspended due to covid restrictions in March 2020, when it restarted to complete the season in June the matches were behind closed doors so a big dip in revenue. That situation continued into most of 2020/21 season and when supporters were allowed in social distancing was still applied so attendances were low.

I get your point though, even when the club has been functioning normally, the type of players you suggest haven't been signed.
 
Liverpool have lost one more PL game than us, but spent 446 million this Summer.

Their signings included a British-record £125 million deal for Alexander Isak and a £116 million deal for Florian Wirtz. This was a record-breaking spend for the club.

Perhaps we are not spending enough.

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What the scousers call an accident, we call a habit.
 
I like Thomas Frank and I wanna give him more time, but mainly cause he's a decent, humble and kind man...unlike our previous manager who really was the cunt's cunt.

I do think he's a good PL manager and I respect his previous achievements. But yes, I've a feeling the Spurs job may be too big for him. I also think he's approached it in the wrong manner, actually I don't think he could've picked a worst way to go about it. It's almost like I don't recognise the Brentford manager.

But to be honest, the Spurs gig is the poisoned chalice by excellence and I genuinely reckon that even Pep, Klopp or Luis Enrique would struggle here. Cause the culture, the whole club philosophy and ethos are fucked...and have been for far too long. And our owners couldn't care less. I don't see how our Agent Gooner CEO would either.

Until everything changes, nothing changes.
I get that 100%. I like Frank, he won me over r massively in the summer with his presses, he's very articulate, seems like a guy I'd love to have a few pints with. But as a football manager, it's the wrong fit here. I have no doubt he might be a very good coach elsewhere, like Nuno, but we're not seeing anything right now.

The board say they've changed, whether that's true or not, time will tell, I have my doubts. But just stagnating and going into more transfer windows with a coach that hasn't made us tick, whatsoever, and giving him another £3/400m to spend on players, the next manager won't want, is detrimental, like it has been. We're no better than we were, just luckier. Doing nothing I fear, is going to be catastrophic. We should've got rid of the last manager sooner, I fear we're going to see the same here.
 
Always we were looking for a bargain, and so often we cycled through 3 or 4 bargains and still hadn't found a bargain.

Well after Kane it'll be Richarlison. He's 60 million. Oh, drat, he's shite. Well we'll get Solanke in for 55 million. Oh, he was average and now he's rarely available. Right then, bring in a striker from the ambitious team that bought Kane, a striker whom they are giving up on as they succeed with the good player they bought from us! We'll spend 30 million on him. Damned the luck he's also shite. But really it's the injuries you know. Who could have seen all this coming?
My all time favourite though was Gil plus a ton of cash for Lamela and then loaning Gil back. The great deal maker. Wonder if his ancestors were Russians who sold the US Alaska?
 
Yeah of course they were .. because we were on a serious dry spell. It’s like when you’ve not got any for a while and pull a fat bird mate. You don’t then go around to your mates bragging about pulling a worldie if they’ve seen her in person.

The EL was a great little win to get over the trophy hump, but glorious is the stretchiest of stretches.
That's it. Ange was only a slump buster
 
I get that 100%. I like Frank, he won me over r massively in the summer with his presses, he's very articulate, seems like a guy I'd love to have a few pints with. But as a football manager, it's the wrong fit here. I have no doubt he might be a very good coach elsewhere, like Nuno, but we're not seeing anything right now.

The board say they've changed, whether that's true or not, time will tell, I have my doubts. But just stagnating and going into more transfer windows with a coach that hasn't made us tick, whatsoever, and giving him another £3/400m to spend on players, the next manager won't want, is detrimental, like it has been. We're no better than we were, just luckier. Doing nothing I fear, is going to be catastrophic. We should've got rid of the last manager sooner, I fear we're going to see the same here.
Nah. You need to give him a chance. That doesn't mean a chance to slip into the relegation zone 3/4 of the way through the season as we were about to do with Ange. But it does mean, as long as the wheels don't totally fall off, seeing where he gets to after a season and then making a call.
 
You never played football, that's obvious.

We conceded two goals cause none of our boys had the brains nor the will to do anything about it, but yeah great defensive display.

Villa coulda scored 6 if they had their shooting boots on.

You are a moron. Jesus Christ :roflmao:

Villa had zero chances apart from the two worldies they thumped in from outside the box. It was our best defenisve display by a considerable distance.

Coulda scored 6? Are you fucking high? Or just a WUM
 
Nah. You need to give him a chance. That doesn't mean a chance to slip into the relegation zone 3/4 of the way through the season as we were about to do with Ange. But it does mean, as long as the wheels don't totally fall off, seeing where he gets to after a season and then making a call.
I hate to take up for Daniel Levy but I think the reason Ange was allowed to persist was because relegation was very unlikely. Not due to any of our own virtues but because the relegated teams were so poor.

If Leicester had not been there and someone else had been, if it were a typical year when the third relegated team were on 30-35 points, we would have had a fight to the death on and I believe Levy would have taken action.

He was a man who hated any sort of risk and the risk of relegation would have been too much.
 
I hate to take up for Daniel Levy but I think the reason Ange was allowed to persist was because relegation was very unlikely. Not due to any of our own virtues but because the relegated teams were so poor.

If Leicester had not been there and someone else had been, if it were a typical year when the third relegated team were on 30-35 points, we would have had a fight to the death on and I believe Levy would have taken action.

He was a man who hated any sort of risk and the risk of relegation would have been too much.
True. I just think that barring sliding down to that level, we need to give TF a season to see if he can get us going in the right direction. Football can change very quickly.
 
I get that 100%. I like Frank, he won me over r massively in the summer with his presses, he's very articulate, seems like a guy I'd love to have a few pints with. But as a football manager, it's the wrong fit here. I have no doubt he might be a very good coach elsewhere, like Nuno, but we're not seeing anything right now.

The board say they've changed, whether that's true or not, time will tell, I have my doubts. But just stagnating and going into more transfer windows with a coach that hasn't made us tick, whatsoever, and giving him another £3/400m to spend on players, the next manager won't want, is detrimental, like it has been. We're no better than we were, just luckier. Doing nothing I fear, is going to be catastrophic. We should've got rid of the last manager sooner, I fear we're going to see the same here.
Yes, he may well be the wrong fit...or he could be the second coming of Poch, who also struggled mightily at first. Time will tell.

One thing for sure, it would definitely have helped him to sign proper players in the summer, and I ain't just talking about tekkers and such skills...we needed to sign real leaders, not those weak ass wipes acting as our current leadership group. Also needed to ship out the fragile little flowers like Udogie and those with a shitty attitude like Biss & Johnson.

Hiring a CEO who ain't a Gooner and who's been there & done it at the highest level, someone who straightaway would've looked to transform the club's culture in depth, that'd have been a big help to Frank too.

Instead, we're asking him to be our very own Luis Enrique but he's got Judas' brother for a CEO and the teletubbies for players.
 
Nah. You need to give him a chance. That doesn't mean a chance to slip into the relegation zone 3/4 of the way through the season as we were about to do with Ange. But it does mean, as long as the wheels don't totally fall off, seeing where he gets to after a season and then making a call.
Man, there is absolutely nothing to suggest we won't be down there. Metrics say that's where we should be. Overperforming XG and XGA by 6/7 goals, in both catagories after 10 games is a massive swing. That's nowhere near sustainable and we've been finding that out recently, bar Everton, which was never a 3-0 performance. There is nothing to cling to. Our inflated league position will likely more reflect where we are at the weekend, and of results don't go our way, bottom half, where we stay for the rest of the season.

The atmosphere at the stadium, the VdV and Spence thing, looks like the players are fed up. It's a perfect storm, and I don't see this lasting until January.

I don't get the excuses that he can't play any sort of attacking football. We've played 4 through balls all season, a premier league low. Brentford lost all of their goals, their captain, and hired a rookie coach. They're playing good stuff, they look a threat. Palace lost their talisman, they're looking fantastic and still creating lots of chances. We're 6 months in, £200m and you can't identify anything that we're trying to do. It's really, really bad. It's been pointing this way for weeks, and with our schedule, it's not getting easier.

We're in trouble.
 
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