No I don't think so. If you hire a bloke and then fire him after 5 games I think that makes you look like a massive cunt who doesn't know what he is doing.
The bigger question there is why did they hire him in the first place surely?
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The bigger question there is why did they hire him in the first place surely?
I 100% agree with this. We're a good team, but we're not at the level of others. Sacking managers on and off will not solve that.
I'd go all out for Glasner, his playing style at Palace is how I want us to play, they remind me a bit of Poch in his last season at the Lane. But then you can look to his start at Palace and last season where his first win of the season came against us! But for me I'm just not seeing what the style is with Frank , I'm not even seeing glimmers of Improvement that says the system is right, we just need better players.
Glasner is the one for me.
Every game against a good team, we're set up to let them play. We don't have good enough systems at either end to trouble Superior opposition. It's lambs to the slaughter. If you expected anything other than a very easy day out for Woolwich, long before the team was announced, then I have some magic beans to sell you.
Hard to be 100% sure at this stage but does anybody feel like Frank maybe "too nice" of a guy to succeed at a club like ours?
He's a very likeable chap but if you look at most successful managers at the top clubs they often have a nasty streak or are just outright c*nts.
Life doesnt reward you just for being a nice guy.
Yeah to people like us who were relishing the results, but they were actually creating chances and I would say had a worse squad than we have currently. Especially their defence which was full of donkeys like David Luiz, Papastathopoulos, Holding, Bellerin, they had the likes of Ceballos in midfield, Willian and Lacazette up front.
Their problems were in part caused by his donut formation which he tweaked, but he was doing good things with their press and off the ball movement, 80-90% of their problems were down to indidividual quality.
We have a much better base of individual quality to build from yet Frank is coaching teams that are getting 1 shot on target and generating pathetic xg.
I’m not so sure about this
They had 1 point from 5 games, they looked on course to go down, now they are just 6 points behind us , if the aim was to stay in the premiership then absolutely the right decision was to sack him, they should have known Ange was only going to play 1 way and that you cannot go from a Nuno defensive counter attack team to full out attack by changing managers once the season had already started.
Generally how it works, yes.
But no, we'll stick with the wrong guy, just because. Sod any ambition, take what we can get.
Oh I expected us to get dicked long before the game for sure.
But not because Frank is the manager.
I expected the players bollox to shrivel and to turn and up and get bullied like we did at Newcastle and at home to Chelsea, only worse as Woolwich are a better side.
Doesn't change the fact that our best route to knicking a point was to go with a 5 and be hard to break down. And if the players had the nads to execute the plan and actually fight then we might have got something.
See Sunderland the other week.
Glasner is undoubtedly a better manager than Frank but that isn’t exactly saying much.
Either way, we’re setting any manager up to fail when they’re forced to start Richarlison and Odobert in a NLD. Until ENIC stump up the necessary cash for us to compete then we might as well just learn to live with being shit.
Never been so depressed as a Spurs fan. 4-1 loss to scum and we barely put up a fight. What the fuck has happened to us.
Either way, we’re setting any manager up to fail when they’re forced to start Richarlison and Odobert in a NLD. Until ENIC stump up the necessary cash for us to compete then we might as well just learn to live with being shit.
Never been so depressed as a Spurs fan. 4-1 loss to scum and we barely put up a fight. What the fuck has happened to us.
I disagree Frank has one arm tied behind his back with most of last seasons goals and assists either benched or sold.
We had a little chuckle when Postecoglou had a disaster at Forest, but presently we're lower in the table now than at this point during his first season here, and Nuno was sacked in 9th place with 15 points, after 10 matches.
12 matches is approximately a third of the season, so if we maintain this form for the rest of it we'll have about 54 points in total. Of course we may improve but..
Fulham were 11th last season with 54 points.
12 matches is approximately a third of the season, so if we maintain this form for the rest of it we'll have about 54 points in total. Of course we may improve but..
Fulham were 11th last season with 54 points.
We sacked Conte. Instead of giving him the players he needed.
May 2022 was so long ago.
The most worrying thing is we are playing shit with a completely bloated squad where our young players aren't even getting a chance. I wouldn't mind being shit if I knew we were playing kids that I knew were going to get better.
But Gray, Bergvall and Sarr were all unused subs yesterday and likely none of them will play any of the PSG game either. We aren't even offering a stepping stone to young players. There is nothing good going on atm.
We are playing a terrible style of football which only works if you've a team ready to win now and win ugly. We don't have that!
The injured players won't even make a big difference when they comeback. How is Frank going to get Kulusevski, Kudus and Simons all into the same team? He won't! He couldn't even find room for Simons yesterday! Solanke back means we probably won't see Tel play again this season if Muani and Richarlison stay fit! I can't see anything to cling onto atm.
The annoying thing is, we always played well under Ange when we'd a fit squad. I actually think ange would have us doing far better than Frank this season if he'd this squad available.I guess the arguement is we'd have a lot more injuries if Ange was still the manager! But at least you were passionate about watching them and could make some excuses for them after a loss. Frank has no excuses. Its just piss poor
But Gray, Bergvall and Sarr were all unused subs yesterday and likely none of them will play any of the PSG game either. We aren't even offering a stepping stone to young players. There is nothing good going on atm.
We are playing a terrible style of football which only works if you've a team ready to win now and win ugly. We don't have that!
The injured players won't even make a big difference when they comeback. How is Frank going to get Kulusevski, Kudus and Simons all into the same team? He won't! He couldn't even find room for Simons yesterday! Solanke back means we probably won't see Tel play again this season if Muani and Richarlison stay fit! I can't see anything to cling onto atm.
The annoying thing is, we always played well under Ange when we'd a fit squad. I actually think ange would have us doing far better than Frank this season if he'd this squad available.I guess the arguement is we'd have a lot more injuries if Ange was still the manager! But at least you were passionate about watching them and could make some excuses for them after a loss. Frank has no excuses. Its just piss poor
Oi I remember reading this about Ange when the players apparently took it upon themselves and defied the manager's tactics and it was nonsense back then and it's nonsense now.
I think we've kind of arrived at the same conclusion together. Ange was never the right person for that job precisley because he plays one way and the Forest set up for at least 2 seasons has been chalk and cheese under Nuno.
So I would suggest that hiring Ange to take on that squad was a dumb decision from day one.
Probably not even Ange's fault really.
Yeah I wanted Glasner over Frank in the first place.
He has that balance doesn't he? Really well structured between defense and attack. Palace are a strong confident side, who play good football.
Glasner would be my choice if Frank doesn't work out.
When you hire a manager you want to be confident that you're going to give him plenty of time.
Wouldn't benching most of the goals from last season, ye know, be on him?