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Manager Thomas Frank

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I would like to post on behalf of Thomas Frank.
He's a hard-working, intelligent, thoughtful manager. He needs to be given time and he needs an improved squad. We should be patient, see who arrives in the Summer and re-assess at the early part of the '26 season.
He needs effective replacements for Kane & Sonny (criminally overdue!) and improvements in a couple of other positions. Then we should move up the table and re-establish our 'Top 6' credentials - but mid-table is where we're currently heading and unless we buy very well (or are lucky) in January that's where we'll finish.
Are the Lewis Family really committed to building the Club on the pitch? - the next two transfer windows will tell us. If they aren't, Frank won't want to be here anyway and I'm not sure I will either. Frank's ambitious and I'm bloody fed up.
Sadly, if we get any form of European football next season, we'll have done well.
So, temper expectations, give the guy the time he needs and pray for a cash injection, or we'll just keep going back to square one again, with yet another manager who fails.

C'mon Motherfuckers C'mon.

Does he need to be given time?
Time to perfect long throws- hoofs up field?

Managers do need time - but I am not sure we should give someone time who is traveling in the wrong direction.
 
But the 'pay the going rate' argument is flipped 180 when it turns out we have an Ndombele or whoever on mega wages and not delivering.

I think people need to get more comfortable with the idea that it isn't a computer game where transfer fees and wages are form multipliers. The rate of failure for high wages and high transfers is very high, rather than meaning a higher success rate.

You hear it on podcasts where ex-pros explain that getting a massive salary over multiple years can push a player to just stop trying because they're sorted. Sterling, Sancho, Sanchez, Ozil.. lots of Chelsea signings and Man Utd signings.

That's exactly what I'm saying and I am certain it has happened at our club with multiple players throughout the years and even now. The PL wanted to get a handle on them but it was voted down on Friday, agents and players said they'd sue.

Football will come to a breaking point at sometime. I dont think we are quite there yet but I dont think we are decades off.
 
Yeah its full Nuno mode now. The home game against Fulham is huge for Frank. I think if we don't score early the place will turn toxic. Especially if he makes any bad subs or takes off an attacking player. The crowd will jump on him with a chorus of boos if we aren't winning the game.

Make or break game for him, this fanbase is ready to turn.
 
We're definitely better defensively than we were under Ange.

In the first 12 League games last season Spurs had an xG of 26.44, and an xGA of 16,52..

In the 12 league games so far this season Spurs have an xG of 12.78 and an xGA of 17.12

We are actually worse defensively than this time last year and, offensively, our numbers are catastrophically different.

I think you need to revise your definition of "better" and, if not that, then your use of the term "definitely" :cautious: :D

you keep using that word tells GIF
 
Yeah its full Nuno mode now. The home game against Fulham is huge for Frank. I think if we don't score early the place will turn toxic. Especially if he makes any bad subs or takes off an attacking player. The crowd will jump on him with a chorus of boos if we aren't winning the game.
...and THAT'S why our fans are deluded and derided!

Still, we can always show our support by singing the SOL song on repeat pre-match... That'll get everyone fired up!
 
In the first 12 League games last season Spurs had an xG of 26.44, and an xGA of 16,52..

In the 12 league games so far this season Spurs have an xG of 12.78 and an xGA of 17.12

We are actually worse defensively than this time last year and, offensively, our numbers are catastrophically different.

I think you need to revise your definition of "better" and, if not that, then your use of the term "definitely" :cautious: :D

you keep using that word tells GIF
Do we need a 'Get Ange Back' thread?
 
That's exactly what I'm saying and I am certain it has happened at our club with multiple players throughout the years and even now. The PL wanted to get a handle on them but it was voted down on Friday, agents and players said they'd sue.

Football will come to a breaking point at sometime. I dont think we are quite there yet but I dont think we are decades off.

I happens in any and every industry. I work in a somewhat creative industry that has attracted people to it for high salaries, to the point where it has been saturated with people who don't give a fuck about their work and just want to milk the money, so now salaries have been 'normalising', it's just full of people not really doing much and moaning about it.

There's no way the likes of Ben White or Benny AE would choose to play football if the money wasn't so lucrative, and I'm sure there's plenty of other players like that who think the same, so when you get to the ink drying on your uber pension there's no reason to try any more.

All the more reason why I'd rather we be an academy-focused club, regardless of whether they are the best talents. You could see yesterday what difference it makes in a NLD when you give a shit about it in the first place
 
Firstly, did you get a black friday discount on your crystal ball?

Secondly, do you get a trophy for finishing 2nd or 3rd? Just asking because no one mentions it as an accolade when we were doing it
What a daft response...
Are you saying finishing 2nd or 3rd and midtable are the same...
Playing in Europe is vital for us if we want to compete at the top of the table... even if it's the Europa... only Man U and their insane revenue streams can miss out on Europe and not be effected when it comes to strengthening the first team squad.
Again, what a daft response...
 
Have to say the long hoofed fk's from our keeper near halfway yesterday are not a good look. Neither is taking 30 seconds to take a throw in when you are losing. These are things we have often complained about when other teams did it at the Lane.
Frank needs to find something attacking from somewhere and fast or this will be over soon for him injuries or not.

I personally despise the way the games going - set pieces second balls long throws and just big guys all over the pitch. Never felt so uninterested in the game the last few years.
 
What a daft response...
Are you saying finishing 2nd or 3rd and midtable are the same...
Playing in Europe is vital for us if we want to compete at the top of the table... even if it's the Europa... only Man U and their insane revenue streams can miss out on Europe and not be effected when it comes to strengthening the first team squad.
Again, what a daft response...
we were in the top 4 one game ago, and you're talking about "mid table" and "daft response"​
 
Nope. Never go back.

Even to Poch.
Nonsense. Ancelotti went to Real Madrid and won the Champions League. Allegri is doing wonders in Milan. Jose won a Premier League at Chelsea. Even Moyes at Everton is doing very well, and also got West Ham to heights they hadn't seen in decades.


I'd take Poch in a heartbeat. He's the only manager I'd accept binning off this season for, since we can't get him before the WC. Now that Levy is gone, bring Poch back and fucking build the team for him.
 
I don’t feel like I’ve got much of a leg to stand on to moan about him as I was one of the ones advocating for him in the summer.

However, I am bitterly disappointed so far with his tenure. I expected more from him
 
I don’t feel like I’ve got much of a leg to stand on to moan about him as I was one of the ones advocating for him in the summer.

However, I am bitterly disappointed so far with his tenure. I expected more from him
I am disappointed too. I will say though that unless we are sliding in the bottom third of the table after Christmas, we should see where he gets to this season. We should back him in Jan. If we finish in the European places then I would back him and give him another season.

We are miles off Woolwich, and on top of that had a bad day. Doesn't surprise me that much. We badly need a proper striker in January. So far, Xavi looks a poor buy. That was more on Levy fucking things up than Frank tbf. But we need to get better quickly.
 
Does he need to be given time?
Time to perfect long throws- hoofs up field?

Managers do need time - but I am not sure we should give someone time who is traveling in the wrong direction.

I agree with you, but he needs more time to see if he can turn the boat around and get us travelling more in the right direction.

I'm saying this now, if he keeps this current approach going he'll be gone by Xmas.

You can't expect fans, home and the away support, to put up with that type of football with the expense and sacrifices they make.

Its up to Frank now, he's at a big crossroads.
 
I am disappointed too. I will say though that unless we are sliding in the bottom third of the table after Christmas, we should see where he gets to this season. We should back him in Jan. If we finish in the European places then I would back him and give him another season.

We are miles off Woolwich, and on top of that had a bad day. Doesn't surprise me that much. We badly need a proper striker in January. So far, Xavi looks a poor buy. That was more on Levy fucking things up than Frank tbf. But we need to get better quickly.
We don't need a proper striker in January. We need a proper manager...
 
We don't have any underlying chance creation patterns, repeatable methods of entering the final third or possession structure even when execution of it is bad.

Poch, Klopp and Arteta had all of these things even when early results were poor.

Red flags for Frank and imo there's no green shoots to suggest it will turn around. His football won't scale with bigger clubs and better players.
 
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