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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?

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Brian Fantana said:
Our fans seem desperate to sack managers with no real idea how or who would replace them. Addicted to turmoil.
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I think a lot of fans don't want him sacked, not yet anyway.

What they want is to see some evidence that he can coach the team to produce some attacking football. Some semblance of that at least.

That's not unreasonable at all.Yes injuries have made things difficult but that doesn't justify the overly negative approach we're seeing week in week out.

I for one hope he does start to change his approach because if he doesn't it will be a question of when not if.
 
Phomesy said:
The thing Ange Derangers don't want to accept (because they are incapable of taking responsibility for their deranged and incoherent opinions) is quite simply this:

If you tell the world that the problem with your team is the FAT FUCK FRAUD CUNT of a manager who personally cuts the hamstrings of every player - then you build an expectation that all that needs to change is the manager.

So when the NEXT GUY comes in he simply must succeed. He must get us at least Top 5 OR get us a TROPHY of some kind because that's what the LAST GUY did. And you have assured us that the LAST GUY was THE WORST.

So when the NEXT GUY comes in and puts up two of the worst xG performances in the entire history of the club against our most bitter rivals - then there's nowhere to hide. You can't now say "oh but the squad is shit" because that's not the grace you gave to the last guy and, anyway, the NEXT GUY must at least MATCH the last guy's record. You can't say "but but... injuries" because you didn't give that grace to the last guy.

So now the NEXT GUY becomes a target for the same derangement and vitriol you yourself poured over the LAST GUY.

Ange Derangers are the primary cause of Frank Derangers. You made this bed.

Because there's nothing this fanbase likes more than sacking a manager. And the cycle will just continue on and on and on.

Unless you learn from your mistakes and grow as people.

No one wants Postecoglou back. We just want you to STOP BEING DERANGED.

Be rational; look at underlying numbers; understand the context of the state of the squad and which players are actually fit; build a rational expectation level.

And don't, at any stage, pretend that winning a European Trophy is meaningless. That is the single most glaring feature of Derangement.

Do better. Be better. Educate yourselves. Support the manager. Support the team.

Thanks for attending my TED TALK 😇
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Loads of people here have been saying how shit our aquad has been for years including under ange
 
latman said:
I think a lot of fans don't want him sacked, not yet anyway.

What they want is to see some evidence that he can coach the team to produce some attacking football. Some semblance of that at least.

That's not unreasonable at all.Yes injuries have made things difficult but that doesn't justify the overly negative approach we're seeing week in week out.

I for one hope he does start to change his approach because if he doesn't it will be a question of when not if.
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Just people here trolling since day 1. Mad for ange back. Most people know its been shit so far but are willing to have a bit of patience for a chance to see a turn around.
 
latman said:
I think a lot of fans don't want him sacked, not yet anyway.

What they want is to see some evidence that he can coach the team to produce some attacking football. Some semblance of that at least.

That's not unreasonable at all.Yes injuries have made things difficult but that doesn't justify the overly negative approach we're seeing week in week out.

I for one hope he does start to change his approach because if he doesn't it will be a question of when not if.
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Also as someone said above not 1 of the people shouting for frank to go have offered up a name to replace frank
 
Go on son said:
Also as someone said above not 1 of the people shouting for frank to go have offered up a name to replace frank
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I'm not Frank Out but pretty sure you'll find plenty like bk_spur bk_spur who have advocated for Iraola and/or Glasner before and since Frank's appointment.

In the interests of accuracy and all that...
 
latman said:
I think a lot of fans don't want him sacked, not yet anyway.

What they want is to see some evidence that he can coach the team to produce some attacking football. Some semblance of that at least.

That's not unreasonable at all.Yes injuries have made things difficult but that doesn't justify the overly negative approach we're seeing week in week out.

I for one hope he does start to change his approach because if he doesn't it will be a question of when not if.
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He’s not an idiot and doesn’t seem stubborn. I suspect he’s not blind to the criticism. However, it was about now I was fed up with Poch in his first few months here so I’ve learnt not to get too excited either way about the early months of a manager’s tenure. I said eighth was where we’d finish before a ball was kicked with fifth being our ceiling if we were really lucky. Nothing has changed my perspective so far looking at the bigger picture.
 
glacierSpurs said:
If people said Frank can win the Europa League since its so easy, the reverse can be true you know. Get Frank to start games with Danso/Davies/Dragusin with Gray in CBs for a handful of games. See how we cope. Fair?

He doesn't even have the balls to play just one of Bentancur or Palhinha. If there come days of Romero and VdV out for prolonged periods, he will be playing triple pivot or even quadruple pivot in midfield scared shit with 5 at the back I kid you not. He's that coward.

Anyway, the argument is not BS. I'm just replying to another poster on how we shall see Emeryball or Dycheball could fluke their way to lifting it this season.

And it's etched into the history no matter how you guys hated it and couldn't accept it. Ange lifted the Europa Cup. At least he has the balls to break the duck. Frank couldn't even muster a 0.1xG against two of the our greatest rivals. Get that registered, not even 0.1xG.. We got 0.06xG and 0.01xG ffs.

Pathetic
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Paragraphs of mindless drivel.

Rewriting history to push an agenda.

Ange was shit, and any who supports him, is a deluded fool.

Lost 22 games, mate. Remember that, and threw away CL spot, after beating Villa 4-0... Then went on to play some of shittiest embarrassing football that season.

Us fans that don't have our heads shoved up arse, know exactly what happen.

And nothing you say, is ever going change that.

The absolute insanity that Ange was worth keeping is some Trump level delusional nonsense.
 
Brian Fantana said:
He’s not an idiot and doesn’t seem stubborn. I suspect he’s not blind to the criticism. However, it was about now I was fed up with Poch in his first few months here so I’ve learnt not to get too excited either way about the early months of a manager’s tenure. I said eighth was where we’d finish before a ball was kicked with fifth being our ceiling if we were really lucky. Nothing has changed my perspective so far looking at the bigger picture.
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Exactly...

I remember Spurs loosing to the Scum 3-0/3-1 in his first game against them... Got our arses kicked...

Fans crying like babies to sack him, not good enough, should have picked x, y, and z.

Too many of our fans are nothing but weak, pathetic, melts.
 
Phomesy said:
The thing Ange Derangers don't want to accept (because they are incapable of taking responsibility for their deranged and incoherent opinions) is quite simply this:

If you tell the world that the problem with your team is the FAT FUCK FRAUD CUNT of a manager who personally cuts the hamstrings of every player - then you build an expectation that all that needs to change is the manager.

So when the NEXT GUY comes in he simply must succeed. He must get us at least Top 5 OR get us a TROPHY of some kind because that's what the LAST GUY did. And you have assured us that the LAST GUY was THE WORST.

So when the NEXT GUY comes in and puts up two of the worst xG performances in the entire history of the club against our most bitter rivals - then there's nowhere to hide. You can't now say "oh but the squad is shit" because that's not the grace you gave to the last guy and, anyway, the NEXT GUY must at least MATCH the last guy's record. You can't say "but but... injuries" because you didn't give that grace to the last guy.

So now the NEXT GUY becomes a target for the same derangement and vitriol you yourself poured over the LAST GUY.

Ange Derangers are the primary cause of Frank Derangers. You made this bed.

Because there's nothing this fanbase likes more than sacking a manager. And the cycle will just continue on and on and on.

Unless you learn from your mistakes and grow as people.

No one wants Postecoglou back. We just want you to STOP BEING DERANGED.

Be rational; look at underlying numbers; understand the context of the state of the squad and which players are actually fit; build a rational expectation level.

And don't, at any stage, pretend that winning a European Trophy is meaningless. That is the single most glaring feature of Derangement.

Do better. Be better. Educate yourselves. Support the manager. Support the team.

Thanks for attending my TED TALK 😇
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Great post! Do want to correct you on one thing however... I would absolutely give another crack at the whip to Ange. Especially if the players have already stopped buying into Frank.

I wouldn't see the harm at all in giving it to Angie until the end of the season. That's if he would even accept ofc.
 
Brian Fantana said:
He’s not an idiot and doesn’t seem stubborn. I suspect he’s not blind to the criticism. However, it was about now I was fed up with Poch in his first few months here so I’ve learnt not to get too excited either way about the early months of a manager’s tenure. I said eighth was where we’d finish before a ball was kicked with fifth being our ceiling if we were really lucky. Nothing has changed my perspective so far looking at the bigger picture.
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I get you. The only thing I'd say is we could see more attacking intent under Poch even though it was very up and down.

Frank has to get us attacking more. Does he deserve time to do that?

Absolutely yes. But it needs to happen, and relatively quickly.

Then he'll get more patience with erratic results.
 
It gets worse :ange-facepalm2:

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candrews said:
Great post! Do want to correct you on one thing however... I would absolutely give another crack at the whip to Ange. Especially if the players have already stopped buying into Frank.

I wouldn't see the harm at all in giving it to Angie until the end of the season. That's if he would even accept ofc.
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you're right about it being a great post....:thumbup:

But you're wrong about going back to Ange. :franksnarl:
 
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