I could see the logic of appointing him in the summer though. A manager not set in his ways with one style but one who is meant to be pragmatic and would change tactics as and when. The problem has been that he has done it too much and seem to focus on other teams and not us. I suspect he has been told in no uncertain terms now that he has to work on the team more. The fact that has come out in the press this week that the players are worried we don’t is actually a good thing as it means that there is a discussion. If he is talking to the players then that’s great if he is taking on some of their thoughts. That is good management and something some of our previous managers haven’t done in the past which has contributed to them losing their jobs.
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I could see the logic of appointing him in the summer though. A manager not set in his ways with one style but one who is meant to be pragmatic and would change tactics as and when. The problem has been that he has done it too much and seem to focus on other teams and not us. I suspect he has been told in no uncertain terms now that he has to work on the team more. The fact that has come out in the press this week that the players are worried we don’t is actually a good thing as it means that there is a discussion. If he is talking to the players then that’s great if he is taking on some of their thoughts. That is good management and something some of our previous managers haven’t done in the past which has contributed to them losing their jobs.
Perhaps you're right, perhaps 'on paper' this was a managerial move more towards the middle than the extremes, which would be a good thing for a change (if it actually worked, as you say...). I guess I'm just so distrustful of our manager recruitment process since Poch that I struggle to believe we've really thought any manager through properly, but I do see your point on this one... Fingers crossed that's what the board thought, and fingers crossed Frank delivers on it...
I have absolutely no idea who is realistic and would make a good manager, an issue with Frank I have is if you look on the official Spurs website there' s a video of his interview shortly after he was appointed, and he was talking about playing risk football, playing the ball forward etc... but he's not doing it in my opinion.My feeling towards Frank at the moment is the same as I had towards Poch at the beginning of his reign. Therefore I'm still hoping he'll turn it around, how long that will take, if ever, that's the million dollar question. Unfortunately the evidence points to him not being up to it
I have to add I haven’t the foggiest idea on who could do a good job for us, player or coach, then again, that's not my (very well-paid) job. I'm just a downtrodden supporter who has to put up with bad purchases and inadequate personnel at all levels of the club (board, coaching, medical - the list goes on!).
Here's a link to that video;
“We’ll work every day to make magic moments for the fans” – Thomas Frank
Thomas Frank spoke of an ‘extraordinary’ feeling in being named our Men’s First Team Head Coach.
www.tottenhamhotspur.com
if you can't be bothered to watch it, he makes the following statements;
“I know the ethos and the history of the club is massive on attacking football, and there is so much attacking talent in the squad," said Frank. "I’m very, very big on principles and what we do in the final third in terms of creating chances.
“I always say this one-liner: if you don’t take risks, you also take risks. So it’s important we take risks. Risk is you need to play forward.
"If you don’t risk the ball, you can’t create things. We need to be brave."
Nobody in the media is holding him to task about this, probably because it's an exclusive interview for the club's private media, SPURS-PLAY or whatever it's called. Football London have surely seen it though, so I don't know...
Well, seeing how Ange turned out, it is still a blessing. It will take time but he will get it together.
Yes I remember that interview, and he seemed to be talking the talk, but we can all do that!I have absolutely no idea who is realistic and would make a good manager, an issue with Frank I have is if you look on the official Spurs website there' s a video of his interview shortly after he was appointed, and he was talking about playing risk football, playing the ball forward etc... but he's not doing it in my opinion.
Here's a link to that video;
“We’ll work every day to make magic moments for the fans” – Thomas Frank
Thomas Frank spoke of an ‘extraordinary’ feeling in being named our Men’s First Team Head Coach.
if you can't be bothered to watch it, he makes the following statements;
“I know the ethos and the history of the club is massive on attacking football, and there is so much attacking talent in the squad," said Frank. "I’m very, very big on principles and what we do in the final third in terms of creating chances.
“I always say this one-liner: if you don’t take risks, you also take risks. So it’s important we take risks. Risk is you need to play forward.
"If you don’t risk the ball, you can’t create things. We need to be brave."
Nobody in the media is holding him to task about this, probably because it's an exclusive interview for the club's private media, SPURS-PLAY or whatever it's called. Football London have surely seen it though, so I don't know...
I'm ok with giving him a bit more time, as Rome wasn't built in a day, but he needs to turn things around soon, as our patience will run thin before the end of the season.
Didn't Thomas Frank say at the start of the season --"If you don't take risks you also take risks" .
We set up against scum with too much defence and no threat up front . The supporters were joking in the bar before the game about us losing but nobody could predict us going out in a whimper
whats this about?
Where would you have been on Ange had we lost the EL Final, a competition full of teams that we would (and most say top ten PL teams) would be expected to beat?
We were very lucky in some games to win, for example we struggled hugely in games against Coventry and Tamworth?
Losing a record twenty two games in his final season does not make him a "bonafide Spurs legend" does it? Had it not been for three more poor, in fact terrible teams below us we would have been relegated.
The Spurs board were absolutely correct to get rid of Ange, and his time at Forest proves if anything that the Premier League is one or two levels above is managerial ability. You could argue that most of the teams we played in the Europa League were as good if not a little better than those he competed against in the SPL and interestingly that Celtic haven't pursued Ange as a replacement for Rogers?
Anyway the bottom line is that all that glitters is not always gold, and that winning the Europa League (as much as it was good for the club and fans) covered up more of his evident managerial weaknesses, than his ability to manage a Premier League side.
Nobody gave us a chance of going away to Frankfurt and getting a result. Their striker was sold to Liverpool for 80m in the Summer yet we went there and won 1-0 against the odds. We were also underdogs in the final against a club who have won multiple trophies over the last 17 years while we won nothing. I'd call that a pretty good achievement. Really hate why our own fans love to diminish it.
They're either fake fans or are so afraid of fans of other clubs they'd rather parrot what they say about Spurs than be proud of the clubs achievments.
Ange with this squad would easily finish top 5 and seriously challenge for titles.
Agree. His comments before and after the game, the set up and performances in this and the Chelsea game, the 0.0 xg - its terrible.
I stop following and go do something useful when it gets to that point.
Many on here don’t when they get to that point which sucks.
You mean there wasn't a top striker available at wages and transfer fee Levy / ENIC were prepared to pay. I think the problem in that window was that there simply wasn't a top quality striker available, so we probably should have held out until the next window... but then the fans would have gone mad about us not signing us a striker so...
And fast forward to today, everyone wants to sack off the manager who is, so far, unbeaten in the CL and is 5 points off 2nd place in the table, despite having lost Son, having Bissouma lose the plot, a makeshift squad of injuries, no natural striker fit, and no maddison.
And you know 100% that if we did get rid of frank, all of the above would be used as reasons why the club is a laughing stock, as soon as Frank won a game at a different club
Sometimes that is true - but in that particular window, there wasn't a top striker available, not a EPL proven one anyway. (I know any player is theoretically 'available' for the right money, but all the best strikers were already at top clubs is what I mean). All I'm saying is that there were fewer good options that window than in the few windows before and after - we should have waited and signed a marquee striker in the next window, signing Richy was a poor decision.
Wouldn't have called Woltemade top quality, if that's considered too quality then the striker market is really fucked.
Edit or did you mean Isak?
Either way neither was he.
Why?
Amorim has been at United 4 times as long as Frank has been here and is even worse.
Disappointed at a result, yes frustrated at a result, yes ……disappointed & frustrated at how we play if we don’t perform how we should and don’t give a 100% but for being stressed or getting angry at a result fuck that life’s too short.
I mean this is dire, to do this against our biggest rivals too.
I actually mistakenly thought Frank would do ok and that for sure there was no way he would be worse than Ange in those two fixtures, but he has actually been worse. Unbelievable
This will need to change
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I actually mistakenly thought Frank would do ok and that for sure there was no way he would be worse than Ange in those two fixtures, but he has actually been worse. Unbelievable
This will need to change
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