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I didn't watch the game but I have it on now. I saw the goals, diabolical. Our stats are all record breakingly bad. xG is appalling.
I said tonight was huge for Frank after the truly insulting derby defeats against the two scums, but to then lose again to Fulham who haven't won away all season. I am pretty sure we did this last season too to a team, who won their first away game of the season against us. There is no doubt the team mentality is absolutely fucking pathetic.
But Frank has to go.
Frank was always a gamble. None of us wanted him as top choice. What he did at Brentford was good but not outstanding. He's out of his depth at a club of our size.
The constant chopping and changing of the team is a really bad sign, but more importantly, the football is so so so bad. As bad as I have ever seen it.
And the biggest red flag of all, is the players don't look to be playing for him. They aren't giving their all. Yes we have some really poor quality in our squad, and big issues for sure. But a manager cannot survive this. He simply isn't getting anything out of this squad. The players are shite but not this shite.
For me we need a clear out of the squad, but Frank needs to go and Lange with him.
I get changing managers is not good, but this isn't the man to get behind. At all.
Keeping him risks us going down.
He's been a total fuck up of an appointment.
Now we will see what the new Lewis children are like. Will they pretend Frank wasn't their man, claim he was Levy's hire, and fire him? They could easily try to make out he was Levy's hire (although Vinai is on video as saying he was their pick).
Or do they stick by him? Feasibly it can't go on much longer.
I think he'll be gone in weeks, definitely by Xmas.
I think he'll be gone before we play Liverpool at home.
Brentford are better than Fulham, they'll cause us big problems. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the end of him.
Yeah. Have said before the PSG game if he couldn't get anything from today's game, and Newcastle game likely being a free hit now, the Brentford game will be his final game if he was even beaten by his former club. Will highlight his total incompetency.I think he'll be gone before we play Liverpool at home.
Brentford are better than Fulham, they'll cause us big problems. Wouldn't be surprised if that's the end of him.

We lost 22 league games last year.Ange was winning when it mattered. It's that simple. Ange had the players fighting despite the circumstances. Starting to think you don't actually watch the games and just come here after checking the results?
Wheres the great cochrane gone. This highly praised coaching team???Even if we had the worse set of players in the league (which we don't)
The shape and the patterns of play should be better than this. Doesn't look like there's any coaching going on at all
We're conceding tons of goals, fulham could've beaten us by 4 just like Woolwich and we came away as we often do with 3 shots on target or less and a super low xg
Think he's well out of his depth, guess he'll get the season to learn on the job![]()
I guess none of those 22 league losses last year mattered then.Ange was winning when it mattered. It's that simple. Ange had the players fighting despite the circumstances. Starting to think you don't actually watch the games and just come here after checking the results?
If you believe that. Then I have no problem with your assertion, but will disagree.WTF are you talking about?
Levy had complete control over the club, he made all the decisions, no one else.
ENIC were very much hands off under Lewis.
Yeah. Have said before the PSG game if he couldn't get anything from today's game, and Newcastle game likely being a free hit now, the Brentford game will be his final game if he was even beaten by his former club. Will highlight his total incompetency.
Was he? He totally went against his much vaunted principles to dour a trophy as welcomed as it was and he started this mentality of not giving a fuck about the league which has continued into this season. Wasnt winning games in tge league last year was he.Ange was winning when it mattered. It's that simple. Ange had the players fighting despite the circumstances. Starting to think you don't actually watch the games and just come here after checking the results?
I find him so uninspiring - his coaching, his mannerisms, his pressers. He's so tough to watch at his pressers, with his pauses and ahs and errms. I don't know how people find he talks well. I think players will be really bored training with him. Only his hair is his greatest style.Even if we had the worse set of players in the league (which we don't)
The shape and the patterns of play should be better than this. Doesn't look like there's any coaching going on at all
We're conceding tons of goals, fulham could've beaten us by 4 just like Woolwich and we came away as we often do with 3 shots on target or less and a super low xg
Think he's well out of his depth, guess he'll get the season to learn on the job![]()
We're in the champions league this year and have a trophy to our name?I guess none of those 22 league losses last year mattered then.
You still think ENIC are blameless for this mess?I genuinely thought we would be a lot better, especially at home.
All I care about is THFC, but on thoughts Frank will be gone, I am not so sure.
Frank came with his whole backroom stuff, and that would cost ENIC a huge amount.
It's definitely a poor return on our Frank investment to date.