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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?

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Tottenham Massive said:
All bias aside, you don't see that as a possible issue???. Really?

Very few successful, top end managers achieved their success of the back of no previous playing career. Especially in the modern game.

The only possible name that comes to mind is Mourinho but even he had playing career of sorts.

Wether you agree or not with the sentiment, if top players don't have serious professional respect for the man who's telling how to play, it doesn't bode well for the long term
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One factor. There are so so many.

Considering how many managers are ex players and fail (i.e 90% of them) this is a hugely weird argument.

In fact there is probably a greater percentage of successful non players than players

This is a tiny fraction of what makes a good manager or not.
 
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Percy Clay said:
Frank had no prior experience of managing a big club. He had never managed a team competing in Europe. He had won nothing. For these reasons, I was very dubious about his appointment. Bad as we were in the league, we'd just won a major European trophy. I just didn't see how Frank was an upgrade on the previous manager.

I was reassured by all the commentary here, and in commentary from proper footballing media contributors, that he was an excellent coach who would bring shape and stability where, under the previous manager, the consensus was that there was no proper coaching.

I'm afraid the Emperor has no clothes. From my, admittedly uneducated, perspective we are worse now than we were then.

We are stuck with Frank for now because there does not seem to be a decent alternative currently on the market. He is on borrowed time though. I just don't see anything about him to suggest he is up to the job.

I have never before felt so strongly about a manager so soon into his tenure, with the exception of Nuno.
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Neither did Poch... So what's your point?
 
Squad full of soft cocks. Can't think of a single other team in the Prem that is so meek at home. And I'm not confident Frank is the man to turn that around.

Brentford's expectations were perfect for him. Hang around mid-table, take some points off the big boys. How he can keep chopping and changing while expecting results and consistency is beyond me.

Muani, Simons, Kudus et al haven't exactly pulled up trees, but we have to be doing more with what we've got.
 
I think he's shite and needs to go. No point keeping him as he doesn't seem to have a clue about what he's doing. The football is abysmal, we don't know how to attack, never seens us so toothless as under this guy. Defense turned to shite again, can't stay a game without conceding two ir three. He keeps on repeting the same mistakes every fucking game, the bad tactics, the wrong team selections and the substitutions.
 
I believe he has stated really bad at every single job he has had. He started ok with us and has now started that bad period. This would be ok if you could see what he wanted from a team or had some consistency in selection or formation, but he seems to chop and change all the time and nothing ever works. Even when we pick up points it’s either from set pieces or we somehow fluke it.

you add this to increasing oddity of his press conferences and negativity towards the fans and it’s really starting to look like he out of his depth!

Unless he pulls a rabbit out the hat I just can’t personally see us having enough of an uptick to keep him around
 
I only dropped in to see how things were going in the Post-Ange era… and, right on cue, the oldest tune in football starts playing: “the coach is out of his depth.”


It’s a comforting story, but not a truthful one.


The coach is rarely the problem. What undoes teams like Spurs, Chelsea, Everton — take your pick — isn’t a lack of tactical IQ; it’s a lack of structural patience. You can’t change direction every 18 months and expect continuity. You can’t hire for one philosophy, sack it mid-cycle, and then complain the new one doesn’t “fit.”


Every manager inherits half a squad built for someone else, with a fanbase that’s been emotionally reset to zero. It’s not that they’re out of their depth — it’s that they’re swimming in a pool that keeps being drained and refilled.


Modern football’s biggest illusion is that “the right manager” can outthink instability. The truth is, even the best drown when the environment won’t hold.


And with Ange? They had someone who did have a plan. Maybe not perfect, maybe rough around the edges — but a clear, brave identity that needed time.. got a trophy- and was soley focused on that with all the injuries...


They fucked it with Ange.
Anyone can see that.
 
You right about everything you say but if the manager is clearly not selecting his best available team then he is totally accountable and im afraid thats what it appears like with this guy.
 
Bergvall showed he deserves to play. Kudus goal was quality. VdV's tackle was immense, always playing his heart out. Even Muani showed how much he wanna scored. Don't tell me how shit this squad is because with a manager who knows what to do and a clear identity to play, we are definitely more than capable of better performance and hence results. And Frank is not the one.

I wanna say Brentford is his level. But maybe it's even not now. Imagine he actually hamstrung them all along. Just look how much better they are now. We are so getting conned.
 
Phomesy said:
Mate you've spent the last 3 match days playing down expectations to hitherto unknown abyss depths and warning vaguely yet ominously of "agendas" from those who expect victory against the likes of Fulham.

Now you've turned. Like you were always going to. Just own it. Say "I was wrong to smear others as agenda driven malcontents because it was always obvious I would join their ranks the moment it appeared I might be wrong"

Just another sacky sack. Nothing to be ashamed of. You are in the majority after all. It's what we do
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What I said was the games against Woolwich and PSG were not the games to judge Frank on. Very clear.

I also stated that last night was a must not lose more than it was a must win , given the context of us at home and Fulham being so poor on their travels. Lots were saying how easy it would be, as they often dio.

I have also previously mentioned that if the poor home form continued, Frank would be in trouble. It has, and he is.

I don't hide about being up front.
 
He looked like hes beaten and had enough in that sky interview. Normally he’s a bit more expressive even after a defeat

The football is awful. Long balls up to RKM and Richie even at home to Fulham. The play is so disjointed, there’s no passing sequences. Some of the players don’t help with that too, Kudus especially. That guy kills any kind of fluency. Danso nowhere near good enough,

Off the ball is shit as well. Fulham were able to just pass through the pitch into their attacking players without any pressure multiple times. some of the players aren’t great or have serious flaws but we have plenty of good ones too. Frank might be a nice guy but he needs to go, thought he was a risky appointment with what I saw at Brentford and he’s completely confirmed that for me.
 
Having a crack at the fans is poor, and in Frank's position it's unwise. He's on shaky ground not half a season in, don't turn fans against you in addition to those already against you due to the poor run of results. It's an OG by him

I don't expect that any manager could get much of a tune out of these donkeys but we've gone from a manager who had no tactics at all to one who's so tactical from moment to moment that we've no identity and there's no perceptible system being advanced...

Perhaps there is a squad that could thrive under this sort of shape-shifting but we haven't got one and he needs to bring back the basics.

Help direly needed in the winter window, and a manager with a seat that's warming... what will the new leaders upstairs do?
 
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