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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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That guys a proper bozo isn’t he.

2024/25 MW15 = 11th.
Lost 4 out of last 5. 1 point from 15. (Worst form alongside soton and Ipswich)
7 points off 4th.
5 points of 6th.
After MW15 we were 10th for one week (MW16). Then we never got in the top half of the table again for the rest of the season.
Finding ourselves 16th or below from MW33.

We were about to go into Free fall.
Winning just 5 more league games between December and May. 3 of those wins v teams who would be relegated.

Versus today.

2025/26 MW15 = 10th
Lost 2 out of last 5. 5 points from 15.
4 points off 4th.
3 points off 5th
2 points of 6th.

About to play 17th placed team in the league.

Could cement our Top 8 Credentials going into the Xmas period. Beat Liverpool MW17 and Top 5 remains doable.

Let’s see if we can win more than 5 league games between now and May!! My money says we will.


Chalk and cheese Mr Cowlin.
 
Anyone noticed how shit we are at throw ins? Everyone hides from the ball.

It’s one of the things that makes me think it’s the players that are the problem.
I spotted our issues with short throw ins as well.

Was wondering that maybe we train so much long throw ins - basic variant is neglected. But prolly players attitude like you pointed might have impact on it as well.

I am always nervous when we have throw in close to our penalty box...
 
True. And RKM has only just come available. Xavi has been lacking until now (hopefully). Etc etc.

TBH of the above I think a fully fit Kulu will make a big difference to this team.
I feel like RKM has been injured, or played with an injury ever since he arrived.
Be nice to have him fit as he looks like a "player"

Xavi is a case of being a work in progress. He's definitely looking more up for it when he plays at the moment.
 
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I spotted our issues with short throw ins as well.

Was wondering that maybe we train so much long throw ins - basic variant is neglected. But prolly players attitude like you pointed might have impact on it as well.

I am always nervous when we have throw in close to our penalty box...
If in doubt the simple (a) up the line (b) to a man who then passes back to the thrower to pass the ball forward. We are shit though, I agree.
 
I spotted our issues with short throw ins as well.

Was wondering that maybe we train so much long throw ins - basic variant is neglected. But prolly players attitude like you pointed might have impact on it as well.

I am always nervous when we have throw in close to our penalty box...

Apparently we've only scored off of 1 long throw in in over 20, so I'm not sure they are even worth it. Maybe in injury time chasing a goal but not before that. Actually playing some football and not hiding from the ball would be better.
 

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3S-lJQONKM

Ali Gold asks Kudus about the incident I brought up in his thread.

Loved that he highlighted it, because Kudus needs to know that shit ain't on.

Just cut out the risky fiddly bits, please.

Overall great, but does some weird-ass shit sometimes that lead to dangerous counter attacks.

Around 70th minute he was by touchline near halfway line and should have played a simple one-two with Pedro to set him off on a run, but instead he chipped the ball up and tried to reverse loop it over Brentford player's head in opposite direction, to Xavi, which led to a throw which they took quickly and we're straight in behind us on to our goal and Mickey had to slide-tackle save the moment.

Vicario, Romero and Spence were absolutely furious with him, screaming across the pitch at him.


Earlier he has a moment in deep advanced position where he tried to do some tricky shit instead of just simple, lost the ball and they hit a diagonal to have a dangerous 2v1 situation.

Think he gets bored of playing football unless he can sprinkle some spice on it and needs to entertain himself, or something.

Quite self-indulgent and unnecessarily risky at times.

Again, overall, he had a great game tho.
 
TLDR: Possible downsides of a heavily stretched 2-4-4 / 2-5-3 shape, illustrated through the Igor Thiago chance for Brentford



It's not that confusing I swear: We're once again in a 2-4-4, with Spence being outside of your screen somewhere in wide left watched by Brentford's Outtara. Brentford meanwhile match this with their 4-4-2 I assume; a mirror image of the former that would technically allow you to mark everybody outside the keeper. You can see the 6v6 here, and their back 4 must be man marking our front 4. Makes a lot of sense.



Spence and his matchup Outtara are also visible now. Keep an eye on Simons though: By dropping to midfield he turns our 2-4-4 into a 2-4-1-3 to possibly tip the aforementioned balance in our favour. Now one of the Brentford's two centre backs has to follow him all the way up there



Simons indeed creates a significant advantage for us, well done. How often do you see players in this league get this much space in the centre of the pitch?





Except a combination of a horrible first touch and a turn to the wrong way causes Richarlison to turn it over. Terrible hold-up play, can't sugarcoat it.





Gray could be blamed for being relatively slow with his reaction. But I'd still consider the ease with which Brentford went from a highly disadvantageous situation to a highly advantageous one in a matter of seconds the downside of having this much distance between the players. It makes these kind of defensive recoveries much more difficult.



I guess it's not terrible considering the additional man we have there in Romero; but If there had been another Brentford player there to even the numbers, this could have been much worse.





Thanks Vicario.

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If Frank abandoned this mini experiment with the back 2 and returned to a back 3 in possesion with Porro tucking in, it would be due to this. Someone like Ange would brush this off as occupational hazard, but I have a strong sense that Frank's extreme reluctance to play through the middle is caused by a strong concern about these sort of vulnerabilities.

But then, like he said, you also take [indirect] risks by refusing to take [more direct] risks. This extremely risk averse football, not going gung-ho, caused us to concede 17 in 10 league games before the most recent clean sheet against Brentford. Sometimes you defend way better by being on the front foot, as evidenced by this game.
 
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