I want him gone before. I want to beat Liverpool, think we’ll have a better chance without him. The fans would be more up for it atleast.
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Because Dyche doesn't have a "style" or a "philosophy" other than to win games.
It's why irrelevant shitty clubs like West Ham, Everton, Burnley, etc get rid of these managers. They win games with a bunch of shite, but the fans want them to do that and look like France 98 Brazil.
He's just a football manager who can put a team together without giving a shit about whether the Sky Sports studio get erections over how it's done
The game is gone , time to start looking for a new hobby
Fuck off with this 17th bollocks. We were 5th the season before with a squad worse than this. Ange rightly got sacked. Not for 17th but not finishing top 5. That is the minimum requirement with a 750m squad and 20+ internationals many of which cost a fortune. This squad is better than 12/13 other squads in the PL. We are underachieving and that sits with Frank and nobody else.
Yeah, and unlike some previous dodgy performances, I think the lineup isn't an excuse. I think that was probably our best available 11 today. We need to strengthen but there's still more than enough quality there so not get steamrollered by Forest ffs.
Who do you regard as decent in the first 11; never mind the squad?
So why can't our manager do that?
And what I saw from Forest today was 10x better than the shit we served up.
I want to wake up tomorrow and hear the news that this useless cunt has been sacked.
We are going nowhere until that happens.
I don't even care any longer who replaces Frank.
Anyone will do.
We are going nowhere until that happens.
I don't even care any longer who replaces Frank.
Anyone will do.
Why should I fuck off, brains?
We did finish 17th, we lost a record amount of games in the league plus plenty of cup matches.
You seriously think we should be in the top 5 with this squad? Fucking Richy leading the line?
We are mid table for a reason.
He didn’t just have time at Brentford, he also had low expectations relative to a top club. Losing matches doesn’t matter there as long as you stay up. That’s the limit of their ambition.
He also had a more humble dressing room of lower profile players, whereas we clearly have some big egos who are less willing to accept low ambition football. That’s to be expected, our captain has won the World Cup and these guys won a European trophy last season.
Our mediocre squad is another problem but I don’t think on paper our squad is worse than Palace or Sunderland. How come they play with personality and courage and we don’t? How can a team like Wolves come to our own stadium and outplay us? Do we have a great record against City because we have better players than them or because we sweat blood and play hard every time we face them? You cannot tell me that Frank had the players ready to die for the result today. They played like slugs.
a lot said the same when we had that fat useless cunt in. anyone wont do, we need to get it right for once, its getting boring now.
Anyone but Frank until the end of the season is what I meant.
We play all the deadbeats in January and we need to get the three points in all these games.
Continuing with Frank could get us into relegation trouble.
We were battered today by Forest.
He's never going to be good enough.
He should never have been given the job.
His budget at Burnley was almost identical to Pochettino's budget at Tottenham Hotspur
I'm not sure that's true tbh. Most of the effective bottom half managers also have a distinct "style" with clear principles and whatnot. They don't tend to set-up in wildly different formations every week - they tend to just be very compact and solid at doing one thing. The thing is, the media doesn't call Dyche's style a 'philosophy' cos it's not very sexy - it's just a very organised, physical mid-block. Only attacking managers get the 'philosophy' label.
The issue you have is when you take a manager with a bottom half "style" that's more built around defensive principles and implant them into a team like Spurs that have higher aspirations and want to try to dominate games. A bit like with Nuno, we hoped Frank would adapt his style and so far he's really struggling.
The squad Dyche has got is actually perfect for him and, ironically, a type of squad Frank would probably prefer. Very physical, experienced ,direct, with pace out wide and an elite passer in midfield. We've got talent but we're a bit more lightweight and soft-centred - we'd probably also be a bit shite under Dyche and might need a manager that's better at focusing on what we do with the ball, without going completely off the deep end like Ange.
Not getting into this mate because we aren't even close. You think this squad is full of shit even though most of it finished 5th less than two seasons ago but you choose a narrative of 17th from last season even though there was a ton of context with it because it suits some weird Frank fetish you have.
i think we need someone else too, i always thought that we need to give him the jan window, but to me it looks like he doesnt have the dressing room, thats a problem. the problem we have is, the players are fucking shit too, no matter who comes in will struggle, as someone else has pointed out, postecoglou has embedded a losing culture at the club, losing league games has become acceptable.
The only thing that saved him now is the lack of available alternatives. It looks more and more like he is out of his depth, has lost the dressing room and for a so called organized defensive manager we are very very leaky.
Cannot believe he laid all the blame on Gray for that goal, he wasn't great but Vicario should never have played that pass and after playing should have been roaring at gray to get rid first touch. Instead he gets up waving arms as usual while the rest have the decency to console a kid learning the trade.
Most worryingly is he seems unable to motivate them, we were lack lustre from the start, no better after half time, subs made no difference and this is becoming an all too common trend.
Let's face it we/Romero mugged Newcastle, we beat a poor Brentford , an equally poor Salvia and Copenhagen , that's three wins in eleven. We also gave wolves one of their few pts, we are papering over cracks if we think he is improving us, he ain't, we are arguably going further backwards.
Cannot believe he laid all the blame on Gray for that goal, he wasn't great but Vicario should never have played that pass and after playing should have been roaring at gray to get rid first touch. Instead he gets up waving arms as usual while the rest have the decency to console a kid learning the trade.
Most worryingly is he seems unable to motivate them, we were lack lustre from the start, no better after half time, subs made no difference and this is becoming an all too common trend.
Let's face it we/Romero mugged Newcastle, we beat a poor Brentford , an equally poor Salvia and Copenhagen , that's three wins in eleven. We also gave wolves one of their few pts, we are papering over cracks if we think he is improving us, he ain't, we are arguably going further backwards.
Yeah I do get that, but Ange had these players last season trying to play an 'attacking' brand of football which eventually resulted in us finishing 17th and winning a cup based on some of the worst football we have seen.
Would we have better results with Solanke, Maddison and Kulu fit? Who knows but one thing is for sure I think we'd be better going forward.
Frank needs some kind of time like all managers do, we sack him and believe me the next manager would come in and face the same issues.
Don't get me wrong, Frank probs has things to answer for but at the same time some of the players are really not helping themselves.
Where is my Frank fetish?