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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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This could get a lot worse. Time to change now.

He won’t lose his job on the back of that performance. Ignore the keyboard warriors, he hasn’t lost the fans in the stadium. You should have heard us in there tonight. Everyone around me says the same thing. The players aren’t good enough.

If we lose the next three he will probably get sacked but the next guy will be lumbered with the same players.
 


Two places, one point and 11 GD worse than after 17 games last season. We better hope and pray that Nuno doesn't turn things around at West Ham because if he does we are bang in trouble. To be actually worse than we were at this stage last season is a fucking joke.
Frank isn't the only issue at our shit box of a club right now but he is the biggest one.
 
We're still the biggest overachievers in the league in terms of goals vs xG by the way. Yes, better than the team that has Haaland: One of those cheat codes that threaten to nullify the predictive power of the whole system with their uncanny ability to convert low percentage chances to goals.

Unless we actually have a few of those at our disposal, we're almost guaranteed to see a -significant- drop in our scoring output before the season ends. And we could very well be 3 points off 17th in two days as it is. If West Ham go on a shopping spree in January like I suspect and our play doesn't improve, we'll be well and truly in a relegation battle.

We don't need to sack him ASAP, but an emergency plan of an unavoidable managerial change needs to be put in place lest we become 22/23 Leicester. They thought they were too good to go down, wasted too much time with Rodgers and by the time they sacked him, the damage had already been done.
 
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Why would a keeper correlate to XG created or conceded?

They're generally a link in the chain after the later and unrelated to the former unless they're super-good with their distribution (which he isn't).
The point was from that moment on our best back 5 never played together in the league. It wasn't specific to Vic just that he was t last domino to fall
 
He's still here then?
From the shadow he will lead this club to glory...

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Right now I’m looking for Vuskovic and Melia to be our saviours next season . 2 young very good prospects with no PL experience. Levy and ENIC really have left us up shit creek with this squad , manager , coaching staff , DOFs , scouts and medical team.

It’s worse than shambolic when your best hope is unproven teenagers
 
What a fucking shitshow. Champions League Final 6 years ago and now we’re about to see our second season in a row languishing around the relegation places. We’ve become Everton.
And as we've seen this all unfolding before our very own eyes some "fans" on here were hell bent on defending the orchestraters and abusing those who were calling out their greed and neglection.

Airfixx Airfixx ,on behalf of yourself and your many acolytes, take a bow, son

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And as we've seen this all unfolding before our very own eyes some "fans" on here were hell bent on defending the orchestraters and abusing those who were calling out their greed and neglection.

Airfixx Airfixx ,on behalf of yorself and your many accolades, take a bow, son

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The irony is that the miser has saddled THFC with a 25 year mortgage and unless someone serious buys the club, or invests in it, we will soon be doing a Leeds.
 
He won’t lose his job on the back of that performance. Ignore the keyboard warriors, he hasn’t lost the fans in the stadium. You should have heard us in there tonight. Everyone around me says the same thing. The players aren’t good enough.

If we lose the next three he will probably get sacked but the next guy will be lumbered with the same players.


Keyboard warriors? Have you seen our stats and our win / loss record? We are fucking shocking. I can't believe how low the bar is nowadays that some fans are lauding that performance. It was fucking shit.

That was the worst Liverpool performance at Spurs I have seen in probably 30+ years and we still lost and couldn't really lay a glove on them. On top of that you can't just ignore the lack of discipline and brain farts, they were a part of the performance. It was awful. What did we even create with 11 men on the pitch? We looked clueless.

The fans may have been in loud voice but it wasn't for Frank, it was likely a mixture of alcohol and the ref being so biased towards Liverpool that fired up the stadium.

If anything, the fact we just went for it with 9 men sums up how low we are as a club. We need to have nothing to lose to actually start to have a go. That for me suggests that the issue isn't the players, it's the system and tactics and the motivation from the manager. The players aren't bought into it, there are so many things wrong.

Just because Frank is doing really badly with this group, it doesn't mean another manager will fail.

We've hired two appalling managers in a row, for different reasons neither are good enough.

I watched Frank's post match PC, he looks a beaten man. It won't be long now. I agree he won't get sacked because we lost to Liverpool at home, the sending offs give him an excuse to hide behind, but for this week only. He won't be able to hide over the next few league games. Matt Law asked Frank about our horrendous home form and his answer was awful. He said stats don't always tell the whole story! Sorry what? 4 wins in 25 odd home games tells the full story, we are a terrible side and Frank has actually seen it get worse.

I don't see him turning it around, nothing I am seeing on the pitch suggests he will.
 
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First 10 games was 8 wins and 2 draws = 26 points.

Season total 66 points.

So the remaining 28 games the team earned 40 points which is 1.43 ppg, if the first 10 matches are included then 1.73 ppg.

If there was no 10 game new manager bounce and the whole season was 1.43 ppg then the total would have been 54 points so still not relegation form for that specific season. The form after the 10 matches was mid table not relegation.
I meant it as from the bounce to the end of his tenure, averages out to relegation form
 
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