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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?

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Fattynomates said:
The season before though we finished 5th under the same shit manager , do you honestly think this squad of players is a bottom half team?
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Not to mention the fact that the end of the Conte/Stellini/Mason era was some of the most diobolical football ever seen at Tottenham - an entire club in its very knees where it seemed we'd never playing actual football again.

And yet all of that changed the moment Postecoglou stepped through the doors. From preseason we were playing completely different brand of football.

So the suggestion that "it will take years to turn it around" is quite simply utter rank nonsense. How you approach your football is a choice not a reaction.

Frank is hamstrung by the fact that we have a very basic midfield. But that has been the issue at Spurs for years.
 
Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
Our current predicament is 100% part of what happened under Postecoglou. The long term injuries to Dragusin Maddison Solanke and Kulu were off the back the attritional battering the squad took. But its beyond Ange its the jam tomorrow team build by Levy and Lange with Paratici's Italian bargin bucket specials thrown in for good measure. Ive never heard of a professional coach talk about throwing near 10 games of football this is psychology hugely damaging. All conventional sports approaches inculcate a deep hatred of losing. This will have to be fixed.

That its proved hard to unpack and resolve does not supprised me. That we are losing games is no shock. Its the manner of the football. If we occasionally clicked and moved the ball back to front sweetly and clinically scoring great goals but narrowly lost we would not be at all concerned. Its the lack of cohesive attacking football, the paucity of our patterns absence of midfield control this is where Frank has lost people. Can he fix this? I don't know he wasn't my pick, but he has time and if he flukes two wins in the coming games he'd be firmly back in control of his destiny.
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Utter Deranged nonsense. :roflmao:

The issues with "Ange ball" was soft tissue injuries through excessive sprininting. None of those players are out because of those types of injuries.

You guys are so obsessed it's unreal :roflmao:
 
Tbh conte and mourinho had a bottomless pit at chelsea. Tottenham we have money to spend within reason. I just think with pragmatic managers great if you win but lose then the fans dont accept pragmatic boring shit. Nuno will get fired at west ham if they keep losing. Not good either straight away start game on back foot.
 
CJJ said:
Tottenham in the league since matchday 11 23/24 until end of 24/25 - with Heung Min Son:
(e.g. Ange's Tottenham after the first 10 games, until the end of the second season)

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6623934781.17

Tottenham this season
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18747251.39
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To be fair to the clueless PE teacher, not only did Ange have Son, but also Solanke, Maddison and Kulu…..
 
latman said:
To be fair mate, it's exactly how I thought the players would speak about him.

When you're too nice in life people see it as weakness and subconsciously perceive you differently

This is where acts of disrespect creep out just like we saw with Micky and Djed

There's a difference between being a nice person and a good person.

Nice people often can walked over in these sort of environments.
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Good 'ol Frank.....nice but Frank......."
After Agger retired, he spoke about the discussion he had with Frank on that day in Germany. ‘You know that we have spoken about consequences and those things. So what are you going to do now?’ he asked Frank. “We lost 7-0 and a lot of guys didn’t perform well enough. Maybe we aren’t in shape, but it was also mentally that we were wrong.”

Agger suggested that Frank should call the players back to the training pitch during the upcoming days off. Frank was hesitant to follow the advice, seemingly unsure about demanding too much, to which Agger responded: “Of course you can. It is the only way people will understand. If I was coach, I would tell the players that they should show up in the morning. Only bring running shoes and we’ll go to the Brøndby woods.”

Frank eventually followed the advice from his captain, but his soft style was not well-liked among the players, which Agger later spoke about. “As a person I really liked Thomas Frank, but as a coach, he wasn’t the one I liked the most,” Daniel Agger said in 2017 when asked by Ekstra Bladet. “I am from the old school, where a football team has to be built around discipline and a hierarchy, but it wasn’t like that at all when I returned to Brøndby,” he recalled. "
 
AberdeenYid said:
Don’t want him being kind. I want him kicking every single player square in the taint every four minutes until our next match.
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Never heard this term before..

The slang term "taint" for the perineum (area between genitals and anus) originated from a clever contraction of "it ain't," specifically playing on the phrase "taint your balls and taint your butt", implying it's neither one nor the other. While the word "taint" (meaning to spoil or stain) has older roots, the anatomical slang term emerged around the 1950s/1970s in American English as a humorous way to name this often-ignored body part.
 
Phomesy said:
Utter Deranged nonsense.

The issues with "Ange ball" was soft tissue injuries through excessive sprininting. None of those players are out because of those types of injuries.

You guys are so obsessed it's unreal
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Some can hardly make a post on any subject without mentioning the former manager.

Post-traumatic embitterment disorder - Wikipedia

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Bitterness (also called resentment) is defined as a basic human reaction in response to experiences of injustice, betrayal, or humiliation, consisting of emotions such as anger, wrath, hostility, disappointment, disgust, and shame.
However, while "ordinary" bitterness is just a transient emotion, which will eventually fade away, embitterment is described as a much more prolonged state of bitterness, which will not easily subside and can severely impair the quality of life of those affected and of their environment.

Unfortunately, TFC is their environment.
 
sudoku said:
Never heard this term before..

The slang term "taint" for the perineum (area between genitals and anus) originated from a clever contraction of "it ain't," specifically playing on the phrase "taint your balls and taint your butt", implying it's neither one nor the other. While the word "taint" (meaning to spoil or stain) has older roots, the anatomical slang term emerged around the 1950s/1970s in American English as a humorous way to name this often-ignored body part.
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See also “Gooch”.
 
candrews said:
Glasner has the lowest possession % out of any team this season. I'm not sure Spurs fans wouldn't be happy with that.
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So not sure why even though they were at home and we were away the poster above made a comment to that effect. We cede possession at home as well. Think wolves game was 50:50 almost. Today cp had far more ball than they normally would. A frank tactic.
 
TommoSpurs said:
Good 'ol Frank.....nice but Frank......."
After Agger retired, he spoke about the discussion he had with Frank on that day in Germany. ‘You know that we have spoken about consequences and those things. So what are you going to do now?’ he asked Frank. “We lost 7-0 and a lot of guys didn’t perform well enough. Maybe we aren’t in shape, but it was also mentally that we were wrong.”

Agger suggested that Frank should call the players back to the training pitch during the upcoming days off. Frank was hesitant to follow the advice, seemingly unsure about demanding too much, to which Agger responded: “Of course you can. It is the only way people will understand. If I was coach, I would tell the players that they should show up in the morning. Only bring running shoes and we’ll go to the Brøndby woods.”

Frank eventually followed the advice from his captain, but his soft style was not well-liked among the players, which Agger later spoke about. “As a person I really liked Thomas Frank, but as a coach, he wasn’t the one I liked the most,” Daniel Agger said in 2017 when asked by Ekstra Bladet. “I am from the old school, where a football team has to be built around discipline and a hierarchy, but it wasn’t like that at all when I returned to Brøndby,” he recalled. "
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I bet no-one ever called Bill Nick or Ferguson as 'nice'........ tough but fair most probably.
 
Phomesy said:
Utter Deranged nonsense. :roflmao:

The issues with "Ange ball" was soft tissue injuries through excessive sprininting. None of those players are out because of those types of injuries.

You guys are so obsessed it's unreal :roflmao:
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If you push players into the red-zone repeatedly it doesn't just increase the chance of soft tissue injury, though. Increase of bone stress injuries (Kulusevski) and joint/cartilage issues (Solanke) are also tied to overuse and excessive loading.

Not saying it's necessarily all Ange's fault, but I don't think it's a complete coincidence that those two players, who absolutely ran themselves into the ground every single game for Ange - more than anyone else in the squad - have had serious long term injuries.

It's been mentioned in various quarters, including former sports science staff at Celtic, that Ange didn't mind taking risks with players and pushing them beyond what was recommended.

Like, if the boot fits...
 
Murphy said:
Exactly. We are getting points in spite of the players and manager, not because of them essentially.

They aren’t busting their bollocks off are they. 8 days off. They should be fresh as fuck.
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Palace took the game to us for the most part and looked more threatening. Even though they have a had a much tougher workload and key players out. We just got the deck chairs and cigars out no attempt to push up or press.
 
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