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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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Feels like the club is close to regressing to what is was in the mid 90's - early 2000s.
Between 1996 - 2004 (for those old enough to remember) we never finished higher than 9th and finished 14th, 12th and 11th a few times.

Not sure how the club avoids becoming that again based on the playing squad and current manager.
We need big changes to avoid a similar period of mediocrity.

It is significantly more of a case of playing squad rather than manager

Imagine Liverpool without 3 of their attacking starters. They'd lose at least the 7 points difference between us and them. Any of the clubs inbetween us.

And add to that all the other injuries and suspensions elsewhere on the pitch.

There's just a lack of context being made here.

And, we're still 3 points better off that this point last season. There's no evidence that a different manager would actually be doing better, other than to pretend to be by attacking and dropping points in style, which still is of no benefit
 
I'm sure Frank will get the season. The Club is in a right mess and it's the consequences of continuous poor decision making off the pitch in terms of player recruitment and appointing managers.

There's no quick fix. I'd sack Frank tonight because I know he's not a good fit for the Club long term despite the mediocre squad at his disposal.

But there's unlikely to be anybody available where it would be worth the risk so he's here for the season.

I'm thoroughly underwhelmed by the state of the Club and it's footballing vision and ambition.

The season is dead on January 4th. Fucking hell.

Just waiting for next season now and as we all now it's the hope that kills you
This is where I'm at too. It's beyond dysfunctional to sack him (and his entire staff) halfway through his first season, after sacking the last one after two seasons, the one before that after two, etc etc, especially when there isn't anyone appropriate available now and there will be plenty in the summer after the WC. We're just going to have to live with this shit until then.

:contehandshead:
 
It is significantly more of a case of playing squad rather than manager

Imagine Liverpool without 3 of their attacking starters. They'd lose at least the 7 points difference between us and them. Any of the clubs inbetween us.

And add to that all the other injuries and suspensions elsewhere on the pitch.

There's just a lack of context being made here.

And, we're still 3 points better off that this point last season. There's no evidence that a different manager would actually be doing better, other than to pretend to be by attacking and dropping points in style, which still is of no benefit
Gordon Ramsey Idiot GIF
 
Damn that was a cold day at WHL.

Once I again I simply have to reiterate the blindingly obvious - Thomas Frank missing most of the best attacking/creative talent is not the cause of all our ills. Just as the previous manager missing 4 of his starting back 5 for 3 months was not the cause of our ills last season.

The cause of our ills is we simply do not have enough genuinely TOP CLASS players. A fully fit squad may be Top 6 if coached well. But we are never fully fit and the debate about whether we're coached well is kind of moot because of that.

For that very simple reason I see no benefit to sacking Thomas Frank at this juncture. I don't particularly like his brand of football but I don't think it's the reason for our inconsistent results.


Having said that, it's still darkly amusing watching the usual Derangers come on here after every match, never apologising for the toxicity they created last season, complaining about the toxicity this season, and almost inevitably blaming Postecoglou for everything from the current results, the general decline of our Club and - in one particularly spectacular moment of Derangement accusing him of burning the world down. :roflmao: Three words will save your souls and sanity guys: "I was wrong". It's that simple. An apology would help as well. :thumbup:

Anyway - nab a draw at Bournemouth and a fighting win against Villa in the Cup and the season is still on. COYS
 
As if it's not bad enough we've to watch and put up with this muck every game, fucking Woolwich are getting results their way often enough now that it's looking very likely they'll win the league. Fuck sake City, a 94th minute equaliser for the Chav scum.
Fucking hate football right now
 
I feel you BUT Ive watched Olusesi and LWB and they COULD do a job and help in their positions right now . Honestly I think they would improve us in a properly structured side.
I don't think LWB helps us in a Frank side though. Probably wouldn't get a kick. We're not set up to play the ball on the ground into any area of the field. Slow side-to- side and chipped balls down the line. Nearly every decent moment today came from a turnover.
 
It is significantly more of a case of playing squad rather than manager

Imagine Liverpool without 3 of their attacking starters. They'd lose at least the 7 points difference between us and them. Any of the clubs inbetween us.

And add to that all the other injuries and suspensions elsewhere on the pitch.

There's just a lack of context being made here.

And, we're still 3 points better off that this point last season. There's no evidence that a different manager would actually be doing better, other than to pretend to be by attacking and dropping points in style, which still is of no benefit

Completely agree.

I remember vividly when people suddenly forgot that we were missing 4 of our starting back 5 last season for three months and complained about our terrible results.

Then all-conquering Liverpool played Plymouth Argyle and played a weaker team without 4 of their starting back 5. And they lost.

And I remember how every suddenly EVERYONE then applied that to Tottenham's injury crisis and everyone was suddenly very understanding about the context of our league form under those circumstances. :D
 
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We weren't wrong he was shite and it was right to give him the boot.

Just like it's probably right to give this guy the boot too.

You were, are, and will continue to be wrong about what ails Tottenham Hotspur until you accept that it begins and ends with the playing talent we have available to whichever manager is in charge.
 
This is where I'm at too. It's beyond dysfunctional to sack him (and his entire staff) halfway through his first season, after sacking the last one after two seasons, the one before that after two, etc etc, especially when there isn't anyone appropriate available now and there will be plenty in the summer after the WC. We're just going to have to live with this shit until then.

:contehandshead:
Chelsea do it . Never harms them
 
It is significantly more of a case of playing squad rather than manager.
You can keep repeating that as much as you want but, I'm sorry, it is total bollocks. He is a cowardly manager who, today, against a team bereft of over half their first choice side, had his team shut up shop to protect a 1-0 lead at half time. This is a pattern. It is all on him. To Dare Is To Do my arse.
 
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