Did you see our pressing today? It was awful but might have been missed if not watching the whole pitch live. All the players on their heels. They don’t have the mentality for it. So slow. All of them. Any manager will have trouble. They stopped doing it for ange and haven’t done it for Frank. They won’t for the next bloke either!
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Did you see our pressing today? It was awful but might have been missed if not watching the whole pitch live. All the players on their heels. They don’t have the mentality for it. So slow. All of them. Any manager will have trouble. They stopped doing it for ange and haven’t done it for Frank. They won’t for the next bloke either!
Give it to Xavi. Or Thiago Motta. Or Inigo Perez (Iraola's former assistant, now head coach at Rayo Vallecano). Or Terzic. Or yeah...make Zidane an offer he can't refuse (til he takes over the
NT...if that even happens).Whoever you bring in, but especially if it's a foreign manager, have good ol' Arry help them settle in, kind of like a special advisor.
At that point there were literally no options. Wanyama was finished. As was Dembele. In the areas where he did have depth (full back, Lucas, Llorente), he utilised it.
I blame the board far more than Poch for how it ended.
Because they are thick.
They'd have a new manager every month just to say 'I told you so' and look good on their media pages.
I can safely say that these 6 months under Frank have been the worst 6 months I've ever endured supporting Spurs. Atleast Nuno was a briefer stint and we still had top players like kane and son to bail us out.
Frank should have been sacked after the Chelsea game. He lost the dressing room that day and was booed off the park. That was his Nuno Manchester United moment. You have to move then and nip it in the bud. Instead we are persisting and it's not working.
I can't think of any happy moments this season. Even all our wins felt like covering over the cracks. Who's the best team we beat anyway? Prob Everton or Brentford? It's been abysmal. And then all the low points - Bournemouth, Wolves, Chelsea, Woolwich, Forest. Its been so toxic.
I remember supporting us back in the early 2000s when we were a midtable club and miles off the top teams. But we always some good times in the season. Players like Keane, Defoe, Berbatov to excite you. Proper characters like King, Dawson, Jenas, etc, who just got the spurs fans and always showed up in a Derby game. This teams doesn't understand the fans at all. The club is so broken. We're now been made feel like we are the problem and we need to give Frank time? Fuck off. Spurs have passion and fight. We have identity. You just can't see it. The new stadium has been a disaster too. Has played a huge part in killing the soul of the club.
This might be my last post for a while. I'm really losing my passion for this. The club I always loved just doesn't feel like that club anymore. It's feels so hollow and I don't know anyone in the club who cares. As much as I gave out about Levy, atleast he was a spurs fan. These vinai's and langes haven't a clue. They don't get it. And Frank doesn't get it at all. He's in awe of Woolwich and arteta. He's not a spurs fan and never will be. He's not even trying to understand us. There's nothing in this for me anymore. None of them care as much as we do, and that hurts. I don't know if spurs will ever be the same again. It feels finished.
Frank should have been sacked after the Chelsea game. He lost the dressing room that day and was booed off the park. That was his Nuno Manchester United moment. You have to move then and nip it in the bud. Instead we are persisting and it's not working.
I can't think of any happy moments this season. Even all our wins felt like covering over the cracks. Who's the best team we beat anyway? Prob Everton or Brentford? It's been abysmal. And then all the low points - Bournemouth, Wolves, Chelsea, Woolwich, Forest. Its been so toxic.
I remember supporting us back in the early 2000s when we were a midtable club and miles off the top teams. But we always some good times in the season. Players like Keane, Defoe, Berbatov to excite you. Proper characters like King, Dawson, Jenas, etc, who just got the spurs fans and always showed up in a Derby game. This teams doesn't understand the fans at all. The club is so broken. We're now been made feel like we are the problem and we need to give Frank time? Fuck off. Spurs have passion and fight. We have identity. You just can't see it. The new stadium has been a disaster too. Has played a huge part in killing the soul of the club.
This might be my last post for a while. I'm really losing my passion for this. The club I always loved just doesn't feel like that club anymore. It's feels so hollow and I don't know anyone in the club who cares. As much as I gave out about Levy, atleast he was a spurs fan. These vinai's and langes haven't a clue. They don't get it. And Frank doesn't get it at all. He's in awe of Woolwich and arteta. He's not a spurs fan and never will be. He's not even trying to understand us. There's nothing in this for me anymore. None of them care as much as we do, and that hurts. I don't know if spurs will ever be the same again. It feels finished.
Players seem to be getting worse at the basics. What are we doing in training? Are we just doing set pieces? Fucking around for social content?
Nope. It's 50% a system issue, the other half on the players not being good enough at this level.
But hey, they were all signed by shit owners, board, and football people.
In the match thread, half time, I said we looked like we had a new manager and he'd had just one session with the lads
Can see some intentions but it was all rough and scrappy
I think with proper coaching and a little time any team can press effectively
And if include us
Not to say we'd be world beaters, but a damn sight better than we are now imo
We hit a fuck of a lot of long balls today when mixing it up was the obvious move. Richy worked as hard as I’ve ever seen him but fed on scraps either those other wallies up front.
The manager isn’t creating good football but we’ve painted ourselves into a corner with him. If he goes then surely Lange and Vinai have to too.
We missed chances today, but we still need to sort the midfield out first and foremost. It's not even a matter of question for me.
In the long run, creating high quality chances is more important for scoring goals than having a high quality finisher or two up front.The latter could only carry you so far, whereas the former would ensure that there's a steady supply of opportunities that even not-so-great finishers could convert from time to time to keep your goals tally at a respectable level.
We scored 74 goals in 23/24 despite having only Richarlison as an actual striker; the guy who, except a purple patch where he scored an incredible 9 league goals in 625 minutes, offered nothing that year. 74 was higher than the respective numbers of 3-4 seasons before that where we had Kane. How?
By creating high quality chances. That's how. We finished that season with an xG of 68.2. That's a very solid number. Absence of a clinical finisher made itself apparent in the fact that we overachieved our xG by a modest 8.5 percent despite finishing 5th, while a few teams in the league hit the 20 mark virtually every season .That kind of an overachivement would've seen us score over 80 that year, but 74 was still more than enough.
Before today's game, exactly half a season in, we were on pace for an xG of 36.2. Even the best finishers in the world wouldn't get you to cross the 50-55 range with that little to work with.
It's true that quality strikers both create and score; in that sense, bringing one or two would give our chance creation a boost as well. But it would not be nearly as big of a one that could be obtained by sorting the midfield out.
In the long run, creating high quality chances is more important for scoring goals than having a high quality finisher or two up front.The latter could only carry you so far, whereas the former would ensure that there's a steady supply of opportunities that even not-so-great finishers could convert from time to time to keep your goals tally at a respectable level.
We scored 74 goals in 23/24 despite having only Richarlison as an actual striker; the guy who, except a purple patch where he scored an incredible 9 league goals in 625 minutes, offered nothing that year. 74 was higher than the respective numbers of 3-4 seasons before that where we had Kane. How?
By creating high quality chances. That's how. We finished that season with an xG of 68.2. That's a very solid number. Absence of a clinical finisher made itself apparent in the fact that we overachieved our xG by a modest 8.5 percent despite finishing 5th, while a few teams in the league hit the 20 mark virtually every season .That kind of an overachivement would've seen us score over 80 that year, but 74 was still more than enough.
Before today's game, exactly half a season in, we were on pace for an xG of 36.2. Even the best finishers in the world wouldn't get you to cross the 50-55 range with that little to work with.
It's true that quality strikers both create and score; in that sense, bringing one or two would give our chance creation a boost as well. But it would not be nearly as big of a one that could be obtained by sorting the midfield out.
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Oh come on. There’s some great content out there. Apparently next week our players will be trying to draw hilarious pictures in the snow at Enfield using their own urine. It’s a feature called pissing in the wind and is being organised by our attacking coaches.
Frank didn't react quickly enough when Sunderland put Ballard on and went to a back 3, it meant our full-backs were getting doubled up on and stopped us building up and gave us too much space to cover in the middle. Once Sunderland took control he needed to be brave and change it before they scored rather than praying for us not to concede.
For a manager who pays such close attention to details he doesn't seem to actually react to what is happening in the games.
For a manager who pays such close attention to details he doesn't seem to actually react to what is happening in the games.
It's hard to disagree with any of this. Feel mostly the same.
A disturbing realisation that the new stadium has ripped the soul out of the Club.
Frank - if he showed it in action what he preaches, I will be behind him. But he is anything but brave.
We have lost 72 goals & assists from 24/25 PL season now (with lack of Solanke, Maddison, Kulu, Son, Johnson (now))
Now, we lost Kudus too. So there is barely any goals in this team. So no wonder there is no open play goals.
Given this context, we have done reasonably well. But my problem is, there is no structure or style of play to understand what we doing
Prematch emphasis goes on set piece defending (which has worked) but not passing drills. Team is struggling to pass. When you dont have in the squad, we are not pulling in resources from academy either.
I remember in preseason, Tynan Thompson had such a great game.....Then zip nothing. He has been scoring hatrick, goals in UEFA youth league - everything but get a chance in this squad.
Brentford didnt have academy but Tottenham has - Frank doesnt have the balls to play academy players...
Some one like Tynan or Luca Barnett could have made some difference in these games. This is why am not against getting Poch back - he was a fair coach and judged his talents well. Frank is anything but
We have lost 72 goals & assists from 24/25 PL season now (with lack of Solanke, Maddison, Kulu, Son, Johnson (now))
Now, we lost Kudus too. So there is barely any goals in this team. So no wonder there is no open play goals.
Given this context, we have done reasonably well. But my problem is, there is no structure or style of play to understand what we doing
Prematch emphasis goes on set piece defending (which has worked) but not passing drills. Team is struggling to pass. When you dont have in the squad, we are not pulling in resources from academy either.
I remember in preseason, Tynan Thompson had such a great game.....Then zip nothing. He has been scoring hatrick, goals in UEFA youth league - everything but get a chance in this squad.
Brentford didnt have academy but Tottenham has - Frank doesnt have the balls to play academy players...
Some one like Tynan or Luca Barnett could have made some difference in these games. This is why am not against getting Poch back - he was a fair coach and judged his talents well. Frank is anything but
Who are they?
I have not seen a single person with their heels dug in. Making shit up again are we?