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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?


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Serious frustrations are growing within some of Tottenhams best players who could even look for a January exit if nothing changes.‘

Best players?! Who even is that?

Maybe their mentality is part of the problem and rather than belly ache like children they should knuckle down and put in a shift!
 
I can't believe in saying this, but at this stage I have lost interest. Until Frank is gone I just can't generate any enthusiasm to invest any more emotional energy in this club.
 
Changed my vote...

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99.99999% sure that Pochettino is the guy they want in the summer so they see fuck all point in paying Frank off now only to bring someone in as an interim.

Season is gone so they might as well just treat Frank as the interim so they get to say that they gave him time, whilst saving money.

If Poch was available now, Frank would be long gone imo.
 
The situation at the club is reminiscent of my place of work. We have had several changes in leadership over the past few years and we are in a situation now where despite having good staff on the ground, we have a demoralised team due to lack of leadership and direction from management which does impact on the quality of our own individual performances at work and therefore the performance of the business. Results and performances will only improve when the culture of the club changes. This has to come from the very top, the owners down to the kit man and canteen staff. Everyone has to have clear vision, high standards and pull in the same direction which clearly isn't happening at spurs. Despite spending money over the years it has been spent poorly, however the players we have are still international players who should be performing better, but due to poor leadership are not performing anywhere near the level they are capable of. I am sure a lot of us have at some point have been in a workplace where negativity can spread quickly and at top level sport where there are going to be strong characters and egos in the dressing room this has to be addressed quickly as there are such fine margins in the premier league where in a team sport, a slight drop in effort, confidence and team cohesion will really impact on results and things can turn bad quickly. Frank is the one who has daily contact with the players and the buck has to lay with him. He may be a nice bloke but that is irrelevant. I am sure we all want a manager who is approachable and all that nice stuff but for us to perform at our best it has to be someone that we respect, displays strong leadership through decisive actions and has clear objectives and vision. I just dont see this with Frank and I can't see things getting better. The noise is getting louder, and diversiveness between the club, players and fans is growing which will only get better with change. We dont know what is happening in the background and there are lots of caveats in sacking and replacing a manager but it has to happen. I can't see how waiting until the end of the season or after the transfer window will help. Surely give a new manager this window to get new players in and salvage the season where with a new manager bounce, time to get players in and motivate and regalvinate the current players and supporters and achieve at least a European place this season.
 
We can revisit this preseason article I think.


A few bits that I find especially interesting:

1 ) Long Balls



It's no secret that Brentford were always one of the most direct teams in the entire league. The bit above mentions the percentage of their passes that were long, and data on the total amount of passes that were long also complement this picture.

21 / 22: 9th in the league
22 / 23 : 2nd in the league
23 / 24: 6th in the league
24 / 25 : 3rd in the league

What about us? I don't have the data on the percentage; but we're tied with Bournemouth for the 2nd place in number of long passes attempted with 1552. None other than Brentford lead the league with 1610.

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2 ) Shot Efficiency



Not all shots on goal are equally threatening; there tends to be a trade-off between eficiency and volume. You can increase the former by being more selective with your attempts. The bit above illustrates this point of emphasis of Frank's with numbers.

What about us? It's a bit complicated.

On the one hand, we certainly cannot be accused of shooting on sight: We're 16th in the league in number of shots on goal with 216. Only Burnley [187], Wolves [191], Sunderland [202] and West Ham [210] have taken less shots.

On the other hand, it so far hasn't led into an increase in the efficiency of each shot attempt: We're 19th in xG per shot. We shoot very little, and our attempts are of low quality; in other words, we just cannot create chances.

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3 ) Defending



What I've said above regarding the quality of each shot also applies to shots allowed at the other end. You want to maximize the said quality at the attacking end, and to minimize it at the defensive end.

Other things being equal, one of the surest way of achieving the latter is to force opponents to take long shots. The bit above illustrates with numbers how good Brentford were at forcing opponents to take a higher percentage of their shots from outside the box as opposed to inside.

What about us ? Again, it's not very straightforward.

On the one hand, we are also similar to last year's Brentford in that deparment: We're 17th in percentage of shots allowed from inside our box with 65.56; only Brentford [62.64], Wolves [64.29] and Sunderland [65.50] have it lower.

On the other hand, the relationship between this and defensive solidity is hardly that simple.

City for example lead the league in this with 75.13 percent, yet they also have one of the best defenses in the league.
Same goes for Newcastle as well: They are 4th with 71.18 percent despite having a really good defense of their own.

More importantly, eye test tells a quite different story when it comes to these long range attempts that we seem to be encouraging as part of the plan: That teams take them not reluctantly but quite enthusiastically, presumably because they think they've just spotted a glaring weakness. Shots keep going in more often than you'd expect, as exemplified most recently by that Semenyo goal.

Could this be worked on if / when Frank gets more time? Possibly.

When it comes to the overall quality, we're the 8th best / lowest in the league in xG against per shot. Nothing spectacular, but could be interpreted as another sign that those "belters" from opponents might eventually be brought under control.

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I keep going back to my initial conclusion regarding the possibility of things eventually starting to improve somewhat within the current framework of Frank's football, especially on the defensive end. But I still don't think the whole endeavour would be worth it.
 
Individually there are a few good players but as a team, it's a load of old wank. Let's not ruin the legacy of past managers because none of them will be able to do anything with this mob.
 
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