That's how our stadium should sound
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Manager Thomas Frank
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That's how our stadium should sound
Clearly a grifter gambling on this to build some cred.
The clown has said he'll delete his account if Frank isn't gone before Dortmund so at least it's a win/win in that respect.
Ngl it would be pretty funny if we binned off Frank and then got a new manager in within a week who didn't want Heitinga on his staff.
Like, nothing against Heitinga, but bringing in a new assistant coach only to sack them within a week would just sum up the level of incompetence we're dealing with atm.
Tokyo Joe
He’s got to go!!
He’s got to go!!
I’m one of the most patient spurs fans in the world but that’s my line
We were all over them but then they put all their players in our half for our goal kick. We didn’t react to that and tried to sideways pass from the keeper. No one knew what to do with the ball due to the congestion so we gave it to them in our half. Then they scored their first goal
We were all over them but then they put all their players in our half for our goal kick. We didn’t react to that and tried to sideways pass from the keeper. No one knew what to do with the ball due to the congestion so we gave it to them in our half. Then they scored their first goal
I'm not getting that though mate. If he is a genuinely good coach, surely he'd be getting more of a tune out of a team full of international players? I mean, if the clubs expectation was for us to be challenging then I'd be with you, as he doesn't have anywhere near the playing staff for those expectations to be realistic, but I don't think that has been put on him.
So what are the deeper issues that are preventing him from getting the players we have playing like a team that doesn't look like it's been dragged out of the pub the night before?
What "competency" is he showing when the team he puts out can't play cohesive Football for 45 minutes, let alone 90?
How is he a genuinely good coach when the entire team has just got worse the longer the season has gone on?
How can the two worst teams in the league come to our ground and outplay us, when they have struggled to buy a win all season? That isn't even including Bournemouth who didn't have a win in 11 until they played us.
We've seen all our players perform at levels above what we're seeing either for previous clubs or for their international teams, yet they're pub league when they play for us.
That's a coaching issue.
There are teams in this league with less talented players than ours, playing better Football than us. That's a coaching issue.
I could live with losses if we could see some sort of tangible improvement in the way we play, but we've regressed.
The deeper issues at the club notwithstanding, he's making us worse than the sum of our parts, and for that he needs to go IMO.
I reckon he'd be happy enough. A multi million quid pay out for a few days work.
Has to have been brought in with a view to being a caretaker. I know they have a fucking awful track record of making poor decisions, but making coaching moves for a manager that's in an untenable position would be really, really fucking stupid.
Not sure it can really get any worse tbh. We're in full-on relegation form so provided we bring in someone vaguely adequate I think we'll see some kind of unturn in results.
Stellini was a weird one cos Conte's results weren't actually that bad prior to his sacking - it was more down to him losing his mind and blowing things up that he left. Stellini was the one that precipitated the disaster as he's barely even a manager whereas under Frank the disaster is already happening.
Mason's always done okay results-wise. Bang average but better PPG than Frank - we bashed Chelsea under him and he at least somewhat steadied the ship. And I think we'd get someone better than Mason anyway.
This is why I can't understand this hankering for Alonso. If he can't get a tune out of RM, with the galaxy of top end quality they have, what exactly do we expect him to do with our lot?
That's not the problem at Madrid. It's the politics and the egos that cause the problems there - basically an unmanageable club for a coach that actually wants players to press and not just get what they want.
It's a completely unique job with insane demands from the President, the media, and dickheads like Vinicius kicking off when the team is on a winning run and he's subbed after 70-mins when 2-0 up.
And tbh they were doing absolutely fine anyway overall. He had like the 4th best results of any madrid manager this century and they've been through a fair few.
What blew my mind today was we had a dangerous free kick and a few corners and decided to play them short!
We’re not even playing to our “strengths”
It’s a car crash
We’re not even playing to our “strengths”
It’s a car crash
He wasn't managing them in that game
OK, that's fair.
Huh? Real's dressing room is full of eggs and was undermined by the players, no one is getting a tune out of them unless youre Zidane or Ancelotti
Right, I'm defeated. Going to bed. Was staying up to see if he would be sacked. But just realised only serious football clubs do that. Shambles.
What's that all about, is it some kind of Spanish superstition or some sort of half-time health benefit or what? :/
Very fair take. I just think his body of work over the years at Brentford indicates a good level of competency. I don't think Vinai is lying when he said their metrics had Frank as a stand out candidate for what they were looking for.
The "deeper issues" are simply we have a fanbase and club hierarchy that are demanding Top 5 results from a squad that is so unbalanced and lacking in top end quality that it is, sadly, mid table at best.
Are we as bad as our results this season? No. Of course not but Frank is also stymied by the fact that his predecessor overachieved - first with a 5th place finish and then with a major trophy.
But Postecoglou could only put so much lipstick on the pig. We have consistently declined in quality and experience over the years to the point where a major drop offf was inevitable. It's depressing but inevitable that we looked so much better when Bissouma came on today - because "good Biss" (with "good Maddison" was at the heart of anything we did well for the last 3 years. Because that PROFILE is what we so desperately need yet we never go out and sign it.
Obviously we can and should be doing better. I just think Frank was the wrong manager at the worst possible time. If we'd kept Postecoglou and he'd been sacked in December and THEN we'd hired Frank I suspect the players would have performed better under him and been more receptive to his coaching. It would still have been a grind to watch but I think the results would have been much better.
We - and any manager we hire - need one or two transformative signings. One in CM and one up top. Add Vuscovic and I think we have the ingredients a chef needs.
And to be honest I feel sorry for Frank. He's right - we are shit. Problem is he's not the guy to fix us. But who is?