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Are you Frank Out or In?

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The crazy thing is, I first started seeing this passiveness under Mourinho as early as 2019.

I think it was this game, we basically stood off them the whole match and did nothing all match.
That pattern has been developing and increasing in frequency every since.
Pretty "impressive" seeing as there's nobody from that squad here today. It's like a disease that passes from player to player.
It even gets managers. One minute you have a pumped up Conte-led Spurs battering Arse 3-0, fast forward less than a year, same coach, largely the same squad, rolled over 0-2 with consummate ease.

I don't know how much of it is directly attributable to Frank, and how much of it is cowardly behaviour spread around our squad.
 
Matt1882 said:
The crazy thing is, I first started seeing this passiveness under Mourinho as early as 2019.

I think it was this game, we basically stood off them the whole match and did nothing all match.
That pattern has been developing and increasing in frequency every since.
Pretty "impressive" seeing as there's nobody from that squad here today. It's like a disease that passes from player to player.
It even gets managers. One minute you have a pumped up Conte-led Spurs battering Arse 3-0, fast forward less than a year, same coach, largely the same squad, rolled over 0-2 with consummate ease.

I don't know how much of it is directly attributable to Frank, and how much of it is cowardly behaviour spread around our squad.
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It's everything.

Inferior players.

The atmosphere at the Levydome.

The clientele at the Levydome.

It's a perfect storm of Levy proportions.
 
BJK said:
Teams running circles around us without breaking a sweat has been my arguably biggest disappointment with him. He was supposed to oversee some significant improvement in our team shape&structure out of possession; and early signs from the Super Cup game and City game in matchday 2 in particular were encouraging.

Not sure what has gone wrong since then; but it has been underwhelming to say the least.

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All part of the same, and a significantly longer, sequence that was interrupted by a City player rolling on the ground with an injury; not us making a defensive play.

Isn't this just City being City?Not quite.

Happened several times this season already: Against Woolwich, Villa and even Sunderland on occasions to name three off the top of my head.
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Partly City just being City but surely also a product of the 343 leaving us short in midfield? That all seemed to change when we went 442 and added Sarr in midfield.
 
Matt1882 said:
The crazy thing is, I first started seeing this passiveness under Mourinho as early as 2019.

I think it was this game, we basically stood off them the whole match and did nothing all match.
That pattern has been developing and increasing in frequency every since.
Pretty "impressive" seeing as there's nobody from that squad here today. It's like a disease that passes from player to player.
It even gets managers. One minute you have a pumped up Conte-led Spurs battering Arse 3-0, fast forward less than a year, same coach, largely the same squad, rolled over 0-2 with consummate ease.

I don't know how much of it is directly attributable to Frank, and how much of it is cowardly behaviour spread around our squad.
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We have Gallagher who was/is a pressing machine, it’s his 10/10 attribute, Romero, Udogie, Palhinha, Kudus, Solanke. We have a lot of players that ideally want to press and play front foot. It’s a tactical decision.
 
Matt1882 said:
Villareal and Monaco were snoozefests. 1 own goal in those 2 games.
Bodo was a shambles for an hour. 2 down and deservedly.
PSG was decent but the scoreline was unflattering. They were the only decent team we played.
The rules/refereeing in the CL helps us a lot, lot more than in the PL.
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BvB and Villarreal are both top four in their leagues and playing very well. In no way are they bad teams.
 
Tio Martin said:
BvB and Villarreal are both top four in their leagues and playing very well. In no way are they bad teams.
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Weak leagues.
Barcelona won the title, finished behind us. Real 2nd, finished outside the top 8 entirely.
Villareal didn't win a single game in the CL and finished 2nd bottom. Dortmund lost to use, City and Inter. IE any half decent team they played. We have beaten them 5 times on the bounce now.

Bayern just Kane everyone.
 
Matt1882 said:
Weak leagues.
Barcelona won the title, finished behind us. Real 2nd, finished outside the top 8 entirely.
Villareal didn't win a single game in the CL and finished 2nd bottom. Dortmund lost to use, City and Inter. IE any half decent team they played. We have beaten them 5 times on the bounce now.

Bayern just Kane everyone.
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I do think though rest of Europe are struggling as the Premier league, barca, real Madrid and bayern have hoovered up their best players. Tbh I hope we don't buckle letting vuskovic go to bayern.
 
Hampshire Spur said:
I do think though rest of Europe are struggling as the Premier league, barca, real Madrid and bayern have hoovered up their best players. Tbh I hope we don't buckle letting vuskovic go to bayern.
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It's not just quality, it's physicality.
The premier league is fight club.
European teams don't play that way. When we actually get a chance to kick a ball about without getting kicked into touch, we're not as bad.
 
Matt1882 said:
The crazy thing is, I first started seeing this passiveness under Mourinho as early as 2019.

I think it was this game, we basically stood off them the whole match and did nothing all match.
That pattern has been developing and increasing in frequency every since.
Pretty "impressive" seeing as there's nobody from that squad here today. It's like a disease that passes from player to player.
It even gets managers. One minute you have a pumped up Conte-led Spurs battering Arse 3-0, fast forward less than a year, same coach, largely the same squad, rolled over 0-2 with consummate ease.

I don't know how much of it is directly attributable to Frank, and how much of it is cowardly behaviour spread around our squad.
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Culture at the club as well, would have an influence too.
 
Bill-bao Bob said:
The problem could be that come the summer the board will think that being out of Europe is actually a good thing.

That it gives Frank time to work with the players in-between matches which will lead to better performances/results.

Oh god I've depressed myself...
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Yep I can see us starting next season with Frank, having an awful start and then scrabbling around for another manager in November when potentially even Poch has moved on!

I don’t trust these owners to make any sensible decisions.
 
Phomesy said:
Partly City just being City but surely also a product of the 343 leaving us short in midfield? That all seemed to change when we went 442 and added Sarr in midfield.
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In defense we aren't playing 3-4-3 though- most of the time Frank sets it up as a 5-2-3. The fullbacks rarely leave the back line to press with the midfield. It attack it very much turns in to a 3-4-3 though.
 
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