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Thanks for proving you can’t read more than a sentence.Unbelievable. A logic since preschool but only here can being told 5th isn't better than 8th. This is what Frank has done to us. Being led to believe things through warped perspectives. I bet if we got relegated this season with more points than last, Frank and some fans will still be adamant that we did better than last season.
On a more serious note (and thank you for the opportunity to once again post my favourite emoji and Twitter link
) there was absolutely an "uptick" from the crumbling ashes of the Conte/Stellini/Mason implosion - and it wasn't finishing "5th" (although that is by definition an "uptick")It was the fact that we played football again. Lovely football. Breathtaking at times. The fact it didn't last does not change the fact that we did it - however brief it was.
The end of 22/23 season was diabolical. I didn't think I'd ever see Spurs play "football" again. Didn't think the squad were capable of it after the 5 years of having it trained out of them. Instead, from the very first pre-season game Postecoglou just changed EVERYTHING about our style.
It was surprising, astonishing and glorious.
And then it all fell apart. Fine. Icarus dies - that's how these things play out.
But don't tell me there was no "uptick". That 10 weeks was the only time (apart from the Scum game in 21/22) where the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium felt like White Hart Lane.
Anyway... as Palace twist the knife of our impending relegation I say all of this to just remind myself that great change can happen if someone wills it. There is always some hope...
Mixed up the giants, so what? The point stands that Thomas has us in the Last 16 while the "big" clubs are watching from home.
Winning away at Frankfurt and schooling Dortmund 2-0 is world-class coaching, end of story. You can cry about the PSG score all you want, but Thomas is building a tactical monster that’s going to lift the Champions League trophy in May.
We’re still grabbing that top four spot too. Keep your screenshots, I’ll see you after the Newcastle masterclass on Tuesday.
There there was a 10 week uptick. My point is we weren’t improving or going anywhere. Just saying 8th to 5th ignores the 10 game manager bounce and lack of Europe.On a more serious note (and thank you for the opportunity to once again post my favourite emoji and Twitter link
It was the fact that we played football again. Lovely football. Breathtaking at times. The fact it didn't last does not change the fact that we did it - however brief it was.
The end of 22/23 season was diabolical. I didn't think I'd ever see Spurs play "football" again. Didn't think the squad were capable of it after the 5 years of having it trained out of them. Instead, from the very first pre-season game Postecoglou just changed EVERYTHING about our style.
It was surprising, astonishing and glorious.
And then it all fell apart. Fine. Icarus dies - that's how these things play out.
But don't tell me there was no "uptick". That 10 weeks was the only time (apart from the Scum game in 21/22) where the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium felt like White Hart Lane.
Anyway... as Palace twist the knife of our impending relegation I say all of this to just remind myself that great change can happen if someone wills it. There is always some hope...
I stuck with Ange longer than most, till February of last season. He was found out and out of ideas. Pure luck that a weak Europa was even an option for him.
He was definitely more entertaining than Frank though and likely better.
Resign, Thomas - you bastard
The tactical genius that is Frank... can I keep Spurs in the Premier League...
It clearly is hinging on result by result though. It’s absolutely embarrassing
Of course you’d do this and forfeit the multi-million pound compo?!
Exactly this. Once it was apparent Frank was the replacement I knew we were fucked. My record on Frank is clear before he got here. Serial loser who plays terrorist football who benefited massively from the structure and low ambition at Brentford. Look at how well they're doing since he left. They appointed their fucking set piece coach, and lost their two best players FFS. If you gave me a choice of keeping Ange for season 3 or sacking him and replacing him with Frank them I'll take Ange every time and make no apology.
Because it's been argued to death in the rest of your post. Should have, could have, would have - all assumptions people like to make in order to make their arguments valid. Matter of fact being 5th is better than 8th and you could say it isn't an improvement is just shockingly a denial in its greatest.
BTW, you can blame Conte and Stellini and Mason for not making Europe the previous season and making it easy for Ange also. How dare them.
Levy should have been sacked before he got the chance to appoint Ange.
That is what we should be having a go at ENIC about.
They left it too long.
We've had three seasons of utter wank managers and have aquired a losing habit.
We're right in the shit.
We need a no nonsense manager who will sack off Romero, Porro, Vicario and all the other lame and useless wasters we have on the books.
As shameful as it is.
I would accept Big Sam's gravy at this point.
We probably should have asked Martin O'Neill before he went back to Celtic.
Ange made Djed, and in return, Djed showed nothing but love to the big man
Unlike this season where he has on multiple times publicly dismissed and undermined Frank.
That point on Porro is absolutely idiotic. Ange got way more out of him.
You clearly just can't concede that your footballing takes for the past 12 months ish have been nothing but absolutely diabolical. To the point where I'm confident you're a parody account.
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I think it should have been before that , in hindsight of course.
With a new manager and bounce , we beat West Ham and this is all put to bed. Let alone other points we might have picked up.
Still think the board and Lange are ultimately to blame more than Frank or any manager. After all it was there squad mismanagement ( one left back etc ) and lack of activity in the window that has cost us.
It's also been their decision to keep Frank.
Lange should be fired immediately and never get his paws near another transfer window.
Ange made DjedAnge made Djed, and in return, Djed showed nothing but love to the big man
Unlike this season where he was multiple times publicly dismissed and undermined Frank.
That point on Porro is absolutely idiotic. Ange got way more out of him.
You clearly just can't concede that your footballing takes for the past 12 months ish have been nothing but absolutely diabolical. To the point where I'm confident you're a parody account.
If you ignore the incredibly poor mismanagement of the squad that forced his hand
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There would
be calls for Poch to be sacked within 2 games if we had won both by at least 3 goals with clean sheets.We are hopelessly addicted to sacking managers. It's our DNA
Anyone who is now calling for Frank, who hasn't been before, and doing so because of yesterday really should find a brain.