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Manager Thomas Frank

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Methinks the Frank era will be forgotten before too long. What other era rivals this one for pure forgettableness?

Thinking of Sherwood perhaps?

Totally forgettable, no notable wins, no real identity to the squad. Not a long enough era to have accomplished anything. Missing the poor league position, but similar in feel.

I said to a mate yesterday "Worst manager since Gross"

He showed me a pic of win %s for Spurs managers, Santini was worse than Gross

I had completely blanked out of memory Santini was ever a thing :franklol:
 
The main criticism of Frank's management of the players seems to be that he is negative and critical. Rather than inspire the players to do better, it seems to have put them on the backfoot.

The players went through a very rough and emotional time last season. Very good performances in the opening games but missed out on some results. However, after 14 games, they will still just 4 points off the top 4 positions. Injuries fucked, but they still fought back to reach League Cup semi-final and win the Europa League - a monumental achievement for a squad disappointed by their performances.

For Frank to come in and tell them that their achievements meant nothing, and finishing 17th is the only think they should focus on was both insulting and a deal breaker. He needed to build on last season's successes, not failures.

A squad known for their attack and flair, was now told to give up the ball and maintain defensive shape. A popular squad member and top scorer Brennan was dropped - despite scoring in his first 2 games. Our breakout player of season Bergvall was also dropped, in favour of a 31 year old.

He didn't focus on the team's strengths; all he could think about was their weaknesses - and ended up playing a system exposing them.


Ive been saying, quite a lot, "He never undestood the assignment"

And I now actually think thats probably not true. Thinking about his words when he came in, he was saying all the right things - "To not take a risk, is also a risk" and all that.

He knew the clubs ethos. He knew the expectations. He knew that the job was intended to be.

Then every step he took was the opposite of what was needed.

He understood the assignment, he was just incapable of doing it. Like, not even a little.

He immediately just defaulted to his own nature, caution, fear, defensiveness, inferiority...
 
I said to a mate yesterday "Worst manager since Gross"

He showed me a pic of win %s for Spurs managers, Santini was worse than Gross

I had completely blanked out of memory Santini was ever a thing :franklol:

Santini was the reason why the park the bus phrase came about after he did just that at Stamford Bridge and Jose went on a rant about his tactics.
 
Nothing like picking over the bones of the departed.

He got a payoff but still wants to turn the knife, all because his season three was cancelled.


Did you watch? Or just reading the headline? Those were facts of the club btw. And he's not the first to have said those things.
 

Thomas Frank never knew how to talk to Tottenham fans – he was a PR disaster​

Thomas Frank holds a press conference at Tottenham

Thomas Frank's PR skills let him down at Spurs Richard Pelham/Getty Images
By Elias Burke
Feb. 12, 2026 5:15 am UTC
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Thomas Frank’s eight-month tenure at Tottenham Hotspur was not just a disaster on the pitch, but a calamity in public-relations terms.
Ange Postecoglou, Frank’s predecessor, was bold in his predictions and ambitions over his two years in the job, occasionally to his detriment. The Australian’s assertion that his sides always win trophies in his second season became almost as iconic as Tottenham’s eventual Europa League final triumph itself; a prophecy that elevated his status and aura within the fanbase.
Frank, on the other hand, went out of his way to try to manage expectations. Where Postecoglou stopped a reporter short to assert that “fourth is not the prize”, indicating greater goals for the north London club, Frank’s first press conference as Spurs head coach last July sticks in the mind for different reasons.
“I promise you one thing,” the former Brentford manager said. “One thing is 100 per cent sure. We will lose football matches. I haven’t seen a team that are not losing any football matches. There is Woolwich — that we cannot mention — in the Premier League. So I made my first rookie mistake there.”
What Frank said is true: not even neighbours and arch-rivals Woolwich’s ‘Invincibles’ side of 2003-04 went through that season unbeaten in all competitions. And yes, Spurs were always facing a transitional campaign, given the departure of club captain Son Heung-min as well as Postecoglou in the summer and long-term injuries to star players in Dejan Kulusevski and James Maddison.
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But that doesn’t mean he had to say it out loud into a microphone. The sense that Frank was reluctant to aim for the stars on the back of Tottenham winning their first trophy in 17 years jarred with sections of the fanbase from the outset.
An early mishap in communication is forgivable, but that would not prove a one-off communications blunder.
Frank’s repeated focus on issues out of his control, including those injuries to Kulusevski and Maddison, as well as comparisons with Woolwich, contributed to the simmering discontent, which spiralled out of control in the 2-1 home defeat against Fulham in late November and just got worse before his sacking on Wednesday.


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“Sacked in the morning!” chants were as frequent as turgid performances and disappointing defeats in his final weeks, coming to a head in what proved his last match in charge, Tuesday’s miserable 2-1 loss to visitors Newcastle United, where fans chanted for former Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino, under whom they finished third, second and third in successive Premier League seasons from 2015 and got to the 2019 Champions League final, but who was fired in the November of that year and is now in charge of the United States’ men’s national team.
Pochettino’s own PR record has not been unblemished in recent months. His effort to ensure USMNT and Marseille forward Timothy Weah did not involve himself in discussions regarding high World Cup ticket prices at the tournament largely being hosted by the U.S. this summer — saying “players need to talk on the pitch, playing football, not outside” — was criticised by some Spurs supporters on social media.
But the Argentinian has a habit of knowing exactly what to say about his old employers.
“Tottenham now is a club that should be trying to win the Premier League and the Champions League because of the facilities that they have,” Pochettino said on the High Performance podcast this week. “In the past, we didn’t have that. Winning the Europa League is not enough for a club like Tottenham. It is a club that should be fighting for the Champions League and Premier League.”
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Mauricio Pochettino knew what to say to appease Spurs fansGlyn Kirk/AFP via Getty Images
It seems unlikely Tottenham will have any success in tempting Pochettino out of his position four months away from what is effectively a home World Cup for the States. Still, it’s because of his messaging and belief in the club that so many fans are pining for his return.
Pochettino — and Postecoglou for that matter — spent the large majority of their tenures trying to increase belief and elevate the club’s standing, while Frank’s communication too often bordered on self-pity.
What is true, however, is that misguided comments or unfortunately-branded coffee cups can be easily forgotten if results and performances are good.



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Like Frank, Postecoglou’s prickly manner and continual references to the previous season’s fifth-place league finish in his final year were under the microscope as Tottenham slid down the table to end up a pitiful 17th. His “second season” prophecy would have looked ridiculous had Spurs lost to Manchester United in that final — a performance that was gutsy but lacked any of the essential ‘Angeball’ tenets that built his reputation.
But there was a palpable lack of big-club energy in the way Frank and Tottenham have operated this term.
It’s one thing talking up the quality of Paris Saint-Germain in the UEFA Super Cup or Manchester City in the Premier League before facing those sides in August, and then going toe-to-toe with superior opposition in those matches and finding a way to hurt them on the pitch. That is the coach many Tottenham supporters were excited about when his appointment was confirmed in June.
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Spurs fans never warmed to FrankJustin Setterfield/Getty Images
But it’s another thing entirely to speak admiringly about the players and on- and off-field structure at Woolwich, and suffer a humiliating 4-1 derby defeat, including a hat-trick by Eberechi Eze, a player who was on the verge of joining Tottenham from Crystal Palace last summer before deciding to return to his boyhood club instead. Just days before that game in November, Frank was asked a question about Eze, to which he replied, “Who?” — a comment he surely reflects on with regret.
There was no lesson learned regarding Antoine Semenyo, whom Frank admitted the club pursued in January, with the Ghana international forward opting instead to leave Bournemouth and sign for City. While the plan was to demonstrate the ambition of the Lewis family, the club’s majority owners, Tottenham followers did not need reminding that their club sit lower in the food chain than the rest of the Big Six, particularly as the market drew to a close last week and their need for attacking reinforcements increased due to further injuries.
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By the end, Frank’s position was untenable.
The fans were disenchanted, with a reported attendance at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium of 59,773 for his final game, around 3,000 below capacity (though the television images of the game and the naked eye inside the ground indicated the crowd was much smaller than that). Supporters were tired of watching a disorganised and seemingly dispirited team lose often while the coach claimed that performances had improved.
Over his seven seasons managing Brentford, Frank was the beloved face of the club, with wide-ranging respect across the Premier League for his skill and intelligence in speaking about complex issues.
Unfortunately, having taken the Tottenham job, he missed the mark from the start and never recovered.
 
Nothing like picking over the bones of the departed.

He got a payoff but still wants to turn the knife, all because his season three was cancelled.


Not sticking the knife in. Just stating the facts that most of us on here go on about infinitum.
Lack of investment in quality players. Low wages compared to other top clubs. If Ange was sticking the knife in then so do all of us.
The truth is, under ENIC, we are NOT a big club, though we should be.

As Ange said when talking about Frank
“You know that he can't be the only issue at the club,"
some people need to accept and face the truth, not back the owners no matter what.
 
It had to happen - but lets not delude ourselves that Frank was the only issue. We have neen enduring a perfect storm of :
Chronic underinvestment in the playing staff - over a significant period.
Crippling injuries - involving long term injuries to key players
Highly questionable tecruitment - value for money notable by its absence
Lack of form on the part of key players
Disjunction between the fans and the players
Lack of leaders through the team - ie willing to sweat blood for the shirt and able to take charge on tje field
Abject failure to nurture home grown talent.
A frankly bizarre transfer window in the face of overwheming need to bring in more bodies

Just my opinion - but if Im right - its going to take a long time to fix - even more so if we drop.
I have to think Romero is captain because he cares so fucking much and is filled with emotion. He reminds me of Keane a bit in that way and let’s face it if Keane played in the modern game he would see red every game he played.

Agree or not I don’t see these players as giving up or not working either. Xavi for example is working so hard and getting almost fuck all results and as a result is frustrated as hell. Confidence is absolutely gone with so many of them.

Don’t think it’s Arry at this stage of his life but a similar type to get the players confidence back is what’s needed. An arm around them and give the freedom to play . Who that is I’m not sure but I do wonder if Ledley could do it
 
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