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Manager Thomas Frank
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lol the desperation is truly something to behold.
Absolutely wild.
It's like reasoning with a toddler, trying to get them to understand why the square block will never be able to fit through the round hole.
But they just ignore the obvious and keeper trying to bash it through.
Getting more and more angry and frustrated as it just can't fit.
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Well, if 100 people voted, I'd pretty much guarantee that it would be 99% in favour of sacking him.
No prizes for guessing the 1%...
Your analogy doesn’t hold water. I’ve displayed no anger or frustration at any stage of any exchange, so immediately you’re off to a shaky start.
But that aside, any points I’ve raised have been reasonable. Open to debate if you like, but I’m still waiting for someone to counter the point about Man Utd not falling victim to a losing mentality a year later despite an even worse season under Amorim. Or why countless other teams haven’t been inflicted by this fantasy issue over the years. Or why current results aren’t, you know, the incumbent manager’s responsibility, not that of the previous one. Or why half a team of this season’s new players who have never even met Ange have somehow been swept up in this fiction that only exists in your head.
Or why, if De Zerbi is bringing in a sports psychologist to address Postecoglou’s tenure, in the very next breath he’s referencing the football played under Ange and saying the team needs to return to it? That would be nonsensical.
Face it pal, you’ve spent a year fangirling for the worst manager in the club’s history and you still can’t let go long after every other fucker here has. The fact you hitched your wagon to a negative, cowardly, nice guy defence monkey must be the ultimate salt in the wound.
a) Manure have a winning heritage far deeper than ours.
Carrick played for them, won with them and his presence reignited and reconstituted that winning heritage and modus.
The dynamics are worlds apart.
We are not United.
We don't have that sort of rich history to pull on as an override for a recent manager going down a destructive losing path.
You can't butt the two up like-for-like, that's dumb.
b) All the players scum bought -- 1 billion spent! -- have magically fixed the deep-rooted mental bottling deficiency programmed into them by Arteta, right?
And haven't been absorbed into it, right?
Fuck sake, at least make this a challenge.
c) You can admire attacking football without wishing to employ the clownish arse end of it that set a deep-rooted rot that was bound to re-emerge.
Ask RDZ if he would like to play in a way that loses 22 games over a season....
Jesus.
d) The Sports Psychologist should have already been in place in the summer, in anticipation of inevitable repercussions of losing so much in the league and the obvious deep effects of that.
That's on Baldcunt... as is not sacking fatman before he could do so much damage.
e) I was absolutely enthusiastic when Frank joined, yes.
Would have been the same if Iraola joined, as was my second choice.
Fanboy tho? lol nope.
I posted Dane pics after wins and criticised him for wrong tactics when needed.
Balanced.
Unlike you oddballs.
We have RDZ now, who's a better manager, overall, and I'm chuffed.
Especially if we stay up.
If it was realistic that he'd have come from Marseille at the time, I'd have bitten your hand off for it over Frank.
Who wouldn't?
f - *for FAIL) "Your analogy doesn’t hold water"
Yet all you're doing is proving it's watertight.
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It really is perfectly simple, Thomas Frank made the mistake of referring to last season's woes.
So even the players that never met Postecoglou were also reminded about the previous season's league performance. It's a downer, it makes people moody, and effects their confidence. Postecoglou to a fair degree filled the void where tactics were lacking with his personality.
Frank has a smaller personality, and what made things worse was he belittled the team's Champions League qualification which was the good thing from last season that was brought forward, and he shat on it.
I know exactly what he meant, but it's not a good idea to look at an achievement as a way that the club almost fiddled it's way into the Champion's League, on top of reminding us all about the 17th league position.
I suppose he'd argue that's what Postecoglou left him with, but IMO he should have kept those thoughts to himself.
That argument is absolutely pathetic.
Good lord.
The reasoning of a child.
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Oh so, demotivating the team by recalling how shit they were the previous season is a good way to manage.
Gotcha. thanks for correcting me.
When Frank came in it was the JOURNOS who, predictably, started referring to the previous season's form and league position.Oh so, demotivating the team by recalling how shit they were the previous season is a good way to manage.
Gotcha. thanks for correcting me.
Frank responded to them in an attempt to manage and neutralise that line of questioning, because you know they were gearing up to use the previous season's record to beat us over the head with.
So Frank got ahead of it early and said we'd likely win a majority of games, draw some and likely lose a few.
I think he then went on to repeat that another couple of times later on.
He's hardly going to respond and manage negative narrative seeding in that context by saying we're going to go invincible.
The previous season in the league was horrific and as a new manager coming in, you want to get in front of it and be up front and say 'hey, I'm not a magician, so let's be reasonable about the timeline to correct things here and how it's likely to play out in the short-to-mid term'.
It's obviously what he was trying to do and people are being transparently disingenous about not acknowledging that was clearly the case.
You might say it was a bit clunky, there's an argument there, but it's perfectly understandable to have a practical approach in dealing with the media in the situation he walked into.
Any idea, though, that this -- those couple of occasions he said this in pressers -- somehow walloped the players over the head and hypnotised them, preventing them from listening to everything good about themselves he would have told them in training everyday, to boost them up and get them going and crushing them, is so diabolical I won't even waste laughter on it.
The level of reach in here is something to behold.
Intergalactic stupidity.
Night, mate.
I've been in the sack Frank by Christmas camp, actually I even posted when he was being mooted as a next manager, if I was in his position I'd stay at Brentford This isn't an easy club to manage, many a manager with one hand tied behind his back. Overall I think he was shit, my only argument in his favour is that he doesn't seem to be permitted the lots of injuries excuse as much.Love seeing Derangers turn on each other.
We did start heading towards bottom table with Postecoglou, but
thinktank
can bet his ass and win, that if it was Harry Redknapp in his prime taking over, no way would there be a hangover, he'd have the team on a different path and wouldn't be publicly saying some of that shit that a clever man would be able not to be dragged into by journalists.In a nutshell Frank is small time. I've given my opinion of Poestecogou plenty of times already,
lolz wut???I've been in the sack Frank by Christmas camp, actually I even posted when he was being mooted as a next manager, if I was in his position I'd stay at Brentford This isn't an easy club to manage, many a manager with one hand tied behind his back. Overall I think he was shit, my only argument in his favour is that he doesn't seem to be permitted the lots of injuries excuse as much.
We did start heading towards bottom table with Postecoglou, but
In a nutshell Frank is small time. I've given my opinion of Poestecogou plenty of times already,
Putting odd words in my mouth there, buddy,
Tagging your user name and informing you about something, isn't putting words into your mouth. I'm trying to help you. Sorry if it caused any offence.
Not offended, didn't know what you were talking about.
I'm saying prime Harry Redknapp, or another manager with such an outlook, wouldn't have the team in a hangover if they came 17th the previous season.
It's my rebuttal to you blaming the previous manager.
That's what I'm talking about in the simplest words I can muster.
If it makes no sense then I apologise for disturbing your forum experience with something that you don't know what it is.