Yes because being able to see the humour in the memes directed at us makes me a troll, top stuff that.
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Yes because being able to see the humour in the memes directed at us makes me a troll, top stuff that.
Sammy, you mentioned complacency creeping in among some players, and I make you right, But I'd go further. I think it goes from top to bottom (in obviously different ways), from executive management and Pochetinno and the training staff and down to us fans.
I'm sure if you looked back at the threads from earlier in the year there'd be plenty that would make you cringe with embarassment at the levels of delusion and arrogance.
I'm sure if you looked back at the threads from earlier in the year there'd be plenty that would make you cringe with embarassment at the levels of delusion and arrogance.
The simple answer is that we have been spoiled. The fans, the players, management etc. The last two and half years we have been allowed to run roughshod with only a few select bumps in the road. This year is our first serious test of the project and while I don't think that we are going backwards as some might think I think we might have leveled out. We are a solid top 4 team now, a team that should play CL football each year. But we now need to figure out how to take that next step up a level and it is a test to Poch and his philosophy
Because it’s not a priority unless it is the CL. The disconnect between cups and the league goes right back to the start of his Spurs career. We are capable of beating anyone but when it comes to the cups we go out to the first decent side we come across. We got to the Semi final of the FA Cup but played league 1 and league 2 sides in the process and had to go to replays against 2 lower league sides. It is all to do with attitude and the only good thing to come out of Saturday is this passive approach will no longer be tolerated. Enough is enough we had 2 Spurs managers pull this shit and openly deride tournaments that have defined this club. It’s simply shouldn’t be accepted .
Hey,
PointToPatrik
. Nothing personal, but you and a lot of others talk loads about this project....ButWhat exactly is it?
When did it start?
How long is it supposed to last?
How do we measure its success?
Cheers
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How do you reach that conclusion? We still trail massively financially against the elite and we will see that this summer. They have already eroded our postion last summer and do we really think that Cheslea will sit by and not spend vast sums in order to regain their position? In addition the barrier preventing Woolwich from using their financial capacity has been removed so we now have that to contend with that as well. A top 4 finish will pose a massive challenge in the years to come so I really dont understand where this confidence stems from.
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The fans are allowed to dream though.....what difference does it make if we feel we can win the CL after topping that group, beating Dortmund twice and taking 4pts off Real. Why shouldnt we dream or be deluded?
We're not paid millions of pounds to keep our nerve when the crunch comes.
The fans expectations have come from the noises the club has been making over the last few years, elite this elite that, the FA cup isnt worth it "where did it get Wigan", title challenges etc etc.....one minute Poch says we should dream, the next we have to be realistic and its all miles away.......for "whoever is in charge"....
We have players thinking they are worth more, or are bigger than Spurs, but what have they actually delivered? Couldnt even beat Leicester at WHL to close the gap to 1pt with some ten games left, then go and get done by West Ham.
We dont like the term bottle job, but thats exactly what we are when it really matters. Beating Real Madrid, as great as was, didnt matter. Saturday mattered.
As far as I know, they're the ones in the semi final
And you want 6 players shipped out, so how did it matter
I want the players to improve their mentality, grow some bollocks and play to the standard that beat Real right to the end of the season. Not win every game, but show the same desire and effort. Because we know they can.
You laud them for that game, then want more than half sold because you think they arent good enough.
Its the ramblings of someone showing early signs of dementia. Im being serious, you need help.
Hi John!Hey,
What exactly is it?
When did it start?
How long is it supposed to last?
How do we measure its success?
Cheers
Thanks for some nice and interesting questions. I'll try answering all of them here.
"What exactly is it?"
The project is obviously to make Spurs into a top team in the Premier League and in Europe.
"When did it start?"
That depends on who you ask, but in my personal opinion the second phase of the project started in earnest when we got all the permits for the new stadium. Since it is a key part of said project. A world class team in a world class stadium. But argument can be made that it started in its fist phase way back when Enic bought the club if one want to.
"How long is it supposed to last?"
Since Levy did not set a specific time frame, promising gold and trophy parades within X amount of years (only an idiot does that when it comes to a sports team because it is so easy to be derailed) the simple answer is as long as it takes. This isn't a infrastructure project like laying down a new railway line between London and Glasgow, where you can make exact predictions for how much time it will take.
"How do we measure its success?"
There are multiple ways to measure success in a project like this. Anyone who has worked in project form knows that you set up one major goals, or end goal. And multiple, achievable minor goals to show that we make progress. If we use the club as an example and set winning the champions league and premier league as our end goals then we can set "get the club out of debt" as a first minor goal. Then we check it off the list since that has been achieved. Then we write up "finish regularly outside of the bottom half of the table", and then we check that off the list as well. Then we can add "play regularly in Europe", "establish ourselves in the upper part of the table", "Start of stadium build", "Construction of new academy and training ground" and so on and so forth.
So while we have yet to chalk off the major goals (league, CL trophy), and even some minor ones (cup trophies) you can definitely see the club and the project as successful comparative to where we were when it started.
The club now and the club when Levy was put in charge. Hell, the club now and the club 4 years ago. Are completely different beasts. It is obvious that successful changes have been made to the club, both on and off field that can be awarded to "the project".
One cannot set a time frame on a "project" within professional sports because there are too many outside factors that can effect it (all the other teams in the league for example). Unlike projects within other fields which are more easy to control. Let us not forget that Manchester City's current project did not strike gold immediately either. Their current regime has been in charge for a decade with vastly superior resources to us and only this year have they become truly dominant.
Thanks for the questions and have a nice evening.
Thanks for the extensive reply.
So what you seem to be saying is the project is subjective.
When it started, its aims and goals, its success can all be gauged or interpreted differently as each of us sees fit.
Anyone can use it to support their agenda . Wether to support ENIC or berate them
Some may use our financial results as their yardstick others may use trophies and siverware while still others may use league positions and so on.
I think the project is to build the value of the club up at minimal cost and at the expense of the team in order to extract the maximum profit when the time is right to sell. Don't forget, we used to be one of the big 5 and then had one Shite decade in the 90s. They hit the jackpot buying a sleeping giant on the eve of the massive tv/global revenue explosion
In that respect, i guess the project is working
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And you wonder why I get on your back.
Why did you have to put a personal insult into the post?
Are you a qualified doctor specialising in that area? How many of those doctors make an analysis based on on line posts, I would guess absolutely none of them.
Your arrogance is palpable, the minute your posts are questioned you don't substantiate or support them, you simply resort to personally insulting the poster.
What does that make you, as a poster Sammy?
Weak and ineffectual, would be my guess.
Or shall I copy your example and go full on tourettes and wish your early demise?
"I'm being serious"
There is no "project"
It's a moronic affectation
But well done John, you noticed that fiscal prudence and sustainable growth is a cornerstone of what the chairman and MD are using to run the club by.
Would you like them to ruin the club financially in the hope that a Russian multi billionaire buys them out?