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Match Villa v Spurs - FA Cup - 9th Feb - 17:35pm KO

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To go into a winnable cup game knowing that Chelsea , Woolwich , Liverpool and Villa ( if we beat them ) were out of the tournament and then put on a pathetic display like that , tells you everything about our club . We are now fulfilling fixtures as opposed to competing in them .
 
To go into a winnable cup game knowing that Chelsea , Woolwich , Liverpool and Villa ( if we beat them ) were out of the tournament and then put on a pathetic display like that , tells you everything about our club . We are now fulfilling fixtures as opposed to competing in them .

It’s boys v men. I’m really not sure what people expect to happen. And the boys are getting more knackered game by game.

Compare to the spine of Fergie’s team when he introduced youngsters.

Schmeichel
Bruce
Pallister
Keane
Cantona.

That was his spine. Warriors. Absolute warriors.
And all men.

Look at our spine recently

Kinsky / Austin
Gray
Dragusin/Danso
Bentacour / Bissouma
Son / Richarlison / Tel

What do you seriously expect? That’s a proper weak spine there. Who’s spurs 5 a side team are any of them getting in?? Even if you only did the last 3 years you’re struggling to pick any of them.

If any team turned up to ours plaguing a spine as weak as ours we’d all be 100% expecting to win if we had our first team on the pitch. Or the majority of.

Liverpool just went to Plymouth with Diaz, Jota, Chiesa and failed to score. Fucking Plymouth!!
 
To go into a winnable cup game knowing that Chelsea , Woolwich , Liverpool and Villa ( if we beat them ) were out of the tournament and then put on a pathetic display like that , tells you everything about our club . We are now fulfilling fixtures as opposed to competing in them .
This. That's what Kane was referring to, having no pressure to win. I thought Levy or any of the directors, like Munn fucking hell being the Chief Football Officer, would have should have could have come down hard on Ange and the squad to advance at all cost. But no. We went out all wimpy. Or at least Ange who was adamant when he first joined to change the culture into a winning one. But no, there was no game plan for both games. Hollow speeches, empty promises from everyone in this club.
 
If Porto didn’t start that game , Spence wouldn’t have been caught out in no man’s land. (Again).
Ange keeps picking this clown. Either he’s been told to do it or he’s a brain dead moron. ( Answer could be both options).
Ange is a stubborn fool and needs to go. He’s actually making me start to hate our own players.
 
Sorry to have missed you yesterday. Traffic was a nightmare.

Thought the atmosphere at least where I was in the ground was a bit toxic from our fans, understandably so. There's some taking the piss out of the club for being useless almost gallows humour and others saying get behind the team.

I'll be at Ipswich next, if you're there hopefully see you.
Yes I agree with the atmosphere, it was a bit hit 'n miss, which was understandable, but don't agree with the booing.
I don't have enough points for league away games, but depending where in EL, hopefully catch you then🤞
 
This. That's what Kane was referring to, having no pressure to win. I thought Levy or any of the directors, like Munn fucking hell being the Chief Football Officer, would have should have could have come down hard on Ange and the squad to advance at all cost. But no. We went out all wimpy. Or at least Ange who was adamant when he first joined to change the culture into a winning one. But no, there was no game plan for both games. Hollow speeches, empty promises from everyone in this club.


He's changed the culture into a losing one. we haven't lost like this in decades.
 
It’s boys v men. I’m really not sure what people expect to happen. And the boys are getting more knackered game by game.

Compare to the spine of Fergie’s team when he introduced youngsters.

Schmeichel
Bruce
Pallister
Keane
Cantona.

That was his spine. Warriors. Absolute warriors.
And all men.

Look at our spine recently

Kinsky / Austin
Gray
Dragusin/Danso
Bentacour / Bissouma
Son / Richarlison / Tel

What do you seriously expect? That’s a proper weak spine there. Who’s spurs 5 a side team are any of them getting in?? Even if you only did the last 3 years you’re struggling to pick any of them.

If any team turned up to ours plaguing a spine as weak as ours we’d all be 100% expecting to win if we had our first team on the pitch. Or the majority of.

Liverpool just went to Plymouth with Diaz, Jota, Chiesa and failed to score. Fucking Plymouth!!

Don't try and bring some logic onto this forum, you will get some people really riled up.

'Sack the manager, bring back poch, conte should have been given more time, worst manager in 30 years.'

Ahh that's better.
 
It’s boys v men. I’m really not sure what people expect to happen. And the boys are getting more knackered game by game.

Compare to the spine of Fergie’s team when he introduced youngsters.

Schmeichel
Bruce
Pallister
Keane
Cantona.

That was his spine. Warriors. Absolute warriors.
And all men.

Look at our spine recently

Kinsky / Austin
Gray
Dragusin/Danso
Bentacour / Bissouma
Son / Richarlison / Tel

What do you seriously expect? That’s a proper weak spine there. Who’s spurs 5 a side team are any of them getting in?? Even if you only did the last 3 years you’re struggling to pick any of them.

If any team turned up to ours plaguing a spine as weak as ours we’d all be 100% expecting to win if we had our first team on the pitch. Or the majority of.

Liverpool just went to Plymouth with Diaz, Jota, Chiesa and failed to score. Fucking Plymouth!!
This is it for me. I guess the plan at the start of the season was to add these talented young players around a spine of Vicario, Romero, VDV, Bissouma and Bentancur, and Son and Solanke.

Obviously we’ve lost the majority of that spine for a key part of the season, but it was never enough to begin with. We knew Romero and VDV were injury prone. We needed a senior CB last sumer who was comparable in quality to them.

The spine of the midfield is just not good enough. Bissouma has been sleep walking since last season. Both of them have let the club down off the pitch and have not shown any desire to make up for it on it.

Adding Solanke did make a real difference, but Son is declining day by day and there’s just not enough up there.
 
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To go into a winnable cup game knowing that Chelsea , Woolwich , Liverpool and Villa ( if we beat them ) were out of the tournament and then put on a pathetic display like that , tells you everything about our club . We are now fulfilling fixtures as opposed to competing in them .

I actually thought the players looked like they were trying more than normal and they were just fucked over by terrible tactics. I posted a video yesterday of them going into the changing room and they didn’t even look like they wanted to be there so out was a surprise they tried even as much as they did. They’re fed up losing every week playing the same shite tactics and game plan that’s leaving them hung out to dry.
 
This is it for me. I guess the plan at the start of the season was to add these talented young players around a spine of Vicario, Romero, VDV, Bissouma and Bentancur, and Son and Solanke.

Obviously we’ve lost the majority of that spine for a key part of the season, but it was never enough to begin with. We knew Romero and VDV were injury prone. We needed a senior CB last sumer who was comparable in quality to them.

The spine of the midfield is just not good enough. Bissouma has been sleep walking since last season. Both of them have left the club down off the pitch and have not shown any desire to make up for it on it.

Adding Solanke did make a real difference, but Son is declining day by day and there’s just not enough up there.

To all intents and purposes we started the season with a squad of 17 senior outfield players.

I’m really Not sure when the last time was we had that small a squad. Was a disaster waiting to happen. Negligent.
 
To all intents and purposes we started the season with a squad of 17 senior outfield players.

I’m really Not sure when the last time was we had that small a squad. Was a disaster waiting to happen. Negligent.
I feel all of those that claimed that we didn't need anymore signings and were telling me that the likes of Mikey Moore were ready to take the step up should delete their accounts. Apologising first.

You know who you are....
 
To all intents and purposes we started the season with a squad of 17 senior outfield players.

I’m really Not sure when the last time was we had that small a squad. Was a disaster waiting to happen. Negligent.
Yeah, the squad building last summer was nonsensical. I dunno if Lange is incompetent, but my feeling is Levy thought he could recreate the birth of Poch’s squad, with a version 2.0.

Essentially that squad came about with adding some talented youngsters to the detritus of AVB’s squad, and letting go of experienced players not willing or able to go along with Poch’s methods.

There was simply not the quality in this squad the one in the detritus of the squad that Poch inherited. The likes of Lloris, Walker, Rose, Verts, Dembele, Eriksen are just light years ahead of most of our players.

The other thing that I think Levy didn’t factor in is the strength of the league. In 2015, La Liga, Serie A, the Bundesliga could still compete with the PL on fees and wages. Now lower level PL sides can take players away from Milan or Juve. The strength in depth of the league is huge. You need seasoned, high-performing players to compete.
 
Keep saying it he has no real intention to play our academy players. He only plays Moore bcos of the publicity and hype that has surrounded him.
He really won't play the academy. I have come to that conclusion now. Through an injury crisis and just ran 'senior' players into the ground instead of giving the youth mins was insanity. Hell. Arguably our best player currently in Spence probably wasn't even gonna see a minute of game time if not for injuries and he is lightyears better than our other FBs. We are going to lose so much young talent very soon and that's just a shame
 
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Yeah, the squad building last summer was nonsensical. I dunno if Lange is incompetent, but my feeling is Levy thought he could recreate the birth of Poch’s squad, with a version 2.0.

Essentially that squad came about with adding some talented youngsters to the detritus of AVB’s squad, and letting go of experienced players not willing or able to go along with Poch’s methods.

There was simply not the quality in this squad the one in the detritus of the squad that Poch inherited. The likes of Lloris, Walker, Rose, Verts, Dembele, Eriksen are just light years ahead of most of our players.

The other thing that I think Levy didn’t factor in is the strength of the league. In 2015, La Liga, Serie A, the Bundesliga could still compete with the PL on fees and wages. Now lower level PL sides can take players away from Milan or Juve. The strength in depth of the league is huge. You need seasoned, high-performing players to compete.

Sumner of 15/16. Poch’s second season.

Back up “Youngster’s” bought in that summer.
Son. 23
Wimmer 22
Njie 22
Plus
Tripper 24
Toby 26

Started season with fazio there as back up CB too 28.

He wasn’t relying on kids. Dele the outlier at 19. Harry was also 22. Made 30+ appearances the season before in the premier league.

We’ve got so many inexperienced players in our first 11 this season. . It’s not surprising the situations we see on the pitch.
 
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Sumner of 15/16. Poch’s second season.

Back up “Youngster’s” bought in that summer.
Son. 23
Wimmer 22
Njie 22
Plus
Tripper 24
Toby 26

Started season with fazio there as back up CB too 28.

He wasn’t relying on kids. Dele the outlier at 19. Harry was also 22. Made 30+ appearances the season before in the premier league.

We’ve got so many inexperienced players in our first 11 this season. . It’s not surprising the situations we see on the pitch.

Who?

1st 11 at start if of the season:

Vic
Porro / Rom / VDV / Dog
Biss / Benta
Kulu / Madz / Son
Dom
 
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