He got previous?
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I don't see his posts...and I'd rather not as there are 4 others on this page it would bring along...but I am tempted seeing as you suggest it's worse than you.todd1882 I think Totti likes his shiny objects more than I do.
I have to admit Postecoglou is a very good manager. He seems organized, likeable, and has built a level of excitement around Spurs. But I believe he will be much like Bielsa was at Leeds. Very popular with fans but very committed to his system and not adaptable. With so many teams trying to adopt a possession oriented model you're left with the simple problem that only one team can have the ball at a given time. If a team plays passively against Spurs they can be overwhelmed by them. If they play aggressively it turns games very unpredictable and hard to see out. Having said all that, I think I was wrong about him originally and no matter what happens this year or next he was the right pick. The team was at a point where it need to be remade, establish an identity and get younger. I think he'll give Spurs three entertaining years and then we'll see what happens. I'm hoping I wrong about the long term.In ideological terms there's a discussion to be had; but in practical terms this is simply incorrect.
(The preceding 90mins of the game are next to meaningless if you're still 1-0 in stoppage time.)
...Something we were evidently motivated to do, given we brought GLC, Bentancur & Gil on (and no minutes for Skipp):
a) See Lo Celso shot & save.
b) Look at the manner of the turn-overs that led to both goals conceeded.
Why?
Not a big enough name?
Prefer conservative football?
He has to be a long-term appointment as he will be difficult to follow as his methods are so different.I have to admit Postecoglou is a very good manager. He seems organized, likeable, and has built a level of excitement around Spurs. But I believe he will be much like Bielsa was at Leeds. Very popular with fans but very committed to his system and not adaptable. With so many teams trying to adopt a possession oriented model you're left with the simple problem that only one team can have the ball at a given time. If a team plays passively against Spurs they can be overwhelmed by them. If they play aggressively it turns games very unpredictable and hard to see out. Having said all that, I think I was wrong about him originally and no matter what happens this year or next he was the right pick. The team was at a point where it need to be remade, establish an identity and get younger. I think he'll give Spurs three entertaining years and then we'll see what happens. I'm hoping I wrong about the long term.
There was a dearth of leadership in the last game. Players like PEH should not be diving and sulking with the ref. Dier should have helped to settle the backline, especially given his own limitations. You can forgive the younger players for dropping their heads but the senior players have to set the example.I agree with what you are saying basically the players behaved exactly as you described and need to be ditched. If we have had a reset under Ange then that includes binning some players who have never been good enough.
So what you're saying, is with the defense that the last few managers have ben saddled with, we had to drop a bit deeper, concede some attack and protect what we had.
So it's OK when Ange does that, but it's bad when others do it? (not saying you said that, but many others have)
That chart is shocking to be honest. I mean I think even I can cover more ground than Dier did lol.
That was just me semi-joking about the excuse Levy will use in January.
I have to admit Postecoglou is a very good manager. He seems organized, likeable, and has built a level of excitement around Spurs. But I believe he will be much like Bielsa was at Leeds. Very popular with fans but very committed to his system and not adaptable. With so many teams trying to adopt a possession oriented model you're left with the simple problem that only one team can have the ball at a given time. If a team plays passively against Spurs they can be overwhelmed by them. If they play aggressively it turns games very unpredictable and hard to see out. Having said all that, I think I was wrong about him originally and no matter what happens this year or next he was the right pick. The team was at a point where it need to be remade, establish an identity and get younger. I think he'll give Spurs three entertaining years and then we'll see what happens. I'm hoping I wrong about the long term.
He has to be a long-term appointment as he will be difficult to follow as his methods are so different.
More to the point that it was a makeshift back 4 that had not played together all season. You could take the 4 best defenders in the world and put them into a back 4 and they would be awful and require some time to get up to pace.
Look at Porro, awful when he first came in, but now looks like a top draw player.
He has to be a long-term appointment as he will be difficult to follow as his methods are so different.
A roaming CB !! I’ve heard it all nowThe chart may also be misleading. If Dier was marking their main striker target (who had little movement) you wouldn't expect him to do anything but stick to they player.
The chart suggests that Davies was the roaming CB who was tasked with chasing balls and Dier was marking to the striker.
Overlay this will the Wolves chart and see what you get then.
And that was all Diers fault was it?Yea I kept saying that at the end just hit it long rather than give it to dier who kept putting out to touch. That led to equaliser. We should got it into their corners, chased the ball and pushed up. But no we just invited them to press us.
...and yet Davies, PEH & Dier are 3 of our most senior players!!!There was a dearth of leadership in the last game. Players like PEH should not be diving and sulking with the ref. Dier should have helped to settle the backline, especially given his own limitations. You can forgive the younger players for dropping their heads but the senior players have to set the example.
Yet weirdly, 3 of them (Dier, Davies & Royal) have all played together in previous seasons.... Albeit under a different manager/tactics.More to the point that it was a makeshift back 4 that had not played together all season. You could take the 4 best defenders in the world and put them into a back 4 and they would be awful and require some time to get up to pace.
Look at Porro, awful when he first came in, but now looks like a top draw player.
harsh...and yet Davies, PEH & Dier are 3 of our most senior players!!!
Yet weirdly, 3 of them (Dier, Davies & Royal) have all played together in previous seasons.... Albeit under a different manager/tactics.
All I saw was them reverting to type, but trying to implement some of Ange's new philosophy...
I almost would've been tempted (just for this game) to suggest they played a system that THEY felt comfortable with...
Just to get them through the match...
Rather than asking them to play some tippy tappy nonsense on the 6 yard line that NONE of them were capable of, or comfortable with!
Ok, struggled with....?
Dier and Davies are back ups, but that doesn't make them the sole reason for losing the game. IMHO they both played better than Sarr, Biss and Johnson who provided no meaningful defensive cover, or attacking threat (after minute 3 - they were absolute mint for the first 3 minutes!). Kulu does a good job of holding the ball up, until the opposition defenders stop laughing, but other than Hojberg who was outnumbered, we had little or no cover for the defenders.Ok, struggled with....?
Not incapable!
I like Davies, but I prefer him at LB, I ACTUALLY like Dier, but not in this system...
Royal always just looks like he's out of breath... even after the first few minutes when we scored!
I think the challenge during this period will be getting these reserve players to play with courage. Far too many of them (including Sarr and Bissouma) went back to Conte-ball as an instinctive reaction as soon as we scored.
The way we stopped playing immediately showed a lack of trust in their team mates, instead of going up a gear and killing the game we put the handbrake on. That wouldn’t have happened if Maddison, VDV and Romero were on the pitch. They need to understand that playing on the front foot is the way we win matches, not passing sideways so our reserve CBs don’t feel too exposed.
So true...I think the challenge during this period will be getting these reserve players to play with courage. Far too many of them (including Sarr and Bissouma) went back to Conte-ball as an instinctive reaction as soon as we scored.
The way we stopped playing immediately showed a lack of trust in their team mates, instead of going up a gear and killing the game we put the handbrake on. That wouldn’t have happened if Maddison, VDV and Romero were on the pitch. They need to understand that playing on the front foot is the way we win matches, not passing sideways so our reserve CBs don’t feel too exposed.