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Management Would you take relegation if it meant new owners and a fresh start?
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Cool, good for you. Well we’ll all be over here doing our thing whilst you sit there hoping we lose and get relegated to lower leagues so you can enjoy yourself more.
Im asking, would it be that much worse than this purgatory we are in now?
What would you take to get out of the same fucking cycle repeating over and over? What kind of punishment would you take in exchange for actually thinking you are spending your time and money on a club that has a chance?
In what way would it definitely improve?
Getting relegated loses us a load of income, so let’s say we change owners, we don’t know who we get, we don’t know if they’re better, or more risk averse. It’s a gamble. In the lower leagues, we earn less money, so who’s to say it’s isn’t more or less the same as now in the sense of we still don’t spend much on players because there’s less of it about in the championship anyway.
I want us to change owners, because I DO as you say, want us to stand a chance. But there’s no guarantee that a relegation means we suddenly will. It could even be worse.
If we’re in the premier league, my wish for different owners doesn’t change, but in the meantime just occasionally I get a bit of joy out of beating City 4-0 away from home and my weekend has a little perk to it.
I still, no matter how shit the transfer window has been get that little bit of hope and expectation on the first day of the season when the suns out, and you haven’t really seen anyone play yet.
Of course, this usually falls away when Spurs, let’s face it, become Spurs. However if still rather do all of these things in the top flight than I would lower leagues.
It isn’t the same when you’re sat there on a Tuesday night, drawing 1-1 with Millwall saying “but hey, tickets are cheaper”.
This club deserves to be in the top flight, and it deserves owners who want it to be successful, but wanting one thing doesn’t mean we have to bin the other to get it.
It's such a daft question.
Why does our income matter to our experience as fans?
Our income and revenue generation is world class but our experience as fans is utter shite.
Yeah the new owners could be shit but at least there’s a chance they aren’t. If we stay under Levy and ENIC, we KNOW it’s going to be shit.
Because with better income, that would be spent on better players (as it should be) giving us more chance of success and seeing our club win things. I want to celebrate my club winning things.
You’re right, we need to change owners, but I don’t think we need to wish to be relegated in order to achieve it.
Wish to be relegated isn’t the question.
The question is would relegation actually be worse than continuing with Levy and ENIC?
This thread is rock bottom....
I'd take staying up by a point, mass protests every week and a half empty stadium. If it forced ENIC out. But relegation?
I'm not sure Spurs could handle it in the Championship, every side down their fights like hell. We would struggle to come back with the attitude at our club.
I'd take staying up by a point, mass protests every week and a half empty stadium. If it forced ENIC out. But relegation?
I'm not sure Spurs could handle it in the Championship, every side down their fights like hell. We would struggle to come back with the attitude at our club.
Ok, so for me personally. Yes it would.
I don’t want Daniel Levy to be chairman, but with Levy as chairman I get the odd high such as a Pochettino reign, and I’d rather have those high points and have to sit here wishing for Levy to get out and have the hope that it could happen and we can progress than I would have to watch my club become so bad it can no longer maintain its place in the best league there is to offer and be relegated.
I just, and this is a solely me thing, I just can’t understand why anyone would want a club they say they support to be relegated. Levy is not a footballing chairman, but I don’t want to go down a league to get someone else with absolutely no guarantee we don’t carry on plummeting
Levy is canny enough to never let it happen ; so it’s obviously a completely hypothetical question.
I can’t think of my other point …
Of course he won’t, but he needs to change our direction, or, hopefully, bigger off and let someone else do it.
As for being happier though, am I happy with the state of our club? No. Would it make me happier to see us become another Stoke, Middlesbrough, or Bolton? Also no.
The odd high that actually results in the square root of fuck all?
Each to their own I guess. For me Sport is about winning. Without winning there’s no jeopardy. Under Levy we know that winning won’t happen.
Make it his life’s work to get us back to the dizzy heights of 4th in the premier league
