How so?
If you have a world class back line against average attackers....is it easier for the attackers?
It depends on the level of players.
Attacking is easy if no one challenges you.
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Player Messi - The greatest player ever?
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How so?
If you have a world class back line against average attackers....is it easier for the attackers?
It depends on the level of players.
Attacking is easy if no one challenges you.
When we're discussing these things we're assuming all things are equal. So we're not comparing a world class defence against average attackers or vice versa. So if we have two balanced players of equal ability going forward and defensively, then it will be more difficult to attack than defend.
Why? Because attacking generally involves having to move with a football, which is much more difficult than moving without one. Beating a player is one of the hardest things to do in football.
Like I said attacking players are worth more because they are more valuable as attacking is harder.
Why do you think small teams defend against big teams? Because it is easier to sit back and hold your position. Playing through teams is extremely difficult. This doesn't mean defending is easy, tackling, marking, positional awareness etc are things not everybody can master, but attacking is without a doubt harder.
Players try to challenge Messi but he evades them. Presently sometimes there are circumstances where they would have stuck a leg in if it was someone else but this is comparable to a world class boxer whose opponents fear throwing a punch because of the possible counter - Messi has earned this respect through schooling players back when he didn't have this reputation.
That is against Getafe. Maradona scored a better one in a World Cup ... admittedly it was only against England, but anyway.
His first was better. Still makes me chuckle.
Cracking post, well said
Messi's was much better.
I've only just got your name, clearly I'm a bit slow.
I'd have broken his back. Cheeky wee cunt.
I think, he's just made the answer to thread title a resounding no!
Dropping the national team, two years before a World Cup where he'll just have turned 31. His legacy will be a player who very nearly was the best ever, but leaving the national team at a "young" age with his last contribution being a missed penalty will leave a sour taste imho.
Dropping the national team, two years before a World Cup where he'll just have turned 31. His legacy will be a player who very nearly was the best ever, but leaving the national team at a "young" age with his last contribution being a missed penalty will leave a sour taste imho.
I would agree, I think he's played in one of the most talented Argentina sides ever and still failed to dominate, lead or achieve at that level.
His club record is phenomenal, but he plays with the best, in a system and club that truly supports his talent.
At this point I'd question whether he's above Ronaldo. Ronaldo can at least claim to have done the absolute business in a different league.
Just read a bit talking about Argentina's recent failing which included the interesting, and dumbfounding, statement that going back to Copa 2007 Messi has been part of an Argentine generation of prodigious attacking talent that has failed to score a single goal in more than 6 hours of play across 4 major tournament finals.
I think Messi will be back, I believe I recall during the final the commentator mentioning that Messi had already scheduled to release a statement after the game. He's repeatedly vented displeasure with the current AFA regime which looks set to be ousted. To that end, this seems a political move and once the organization is sorted out he'll return to the fold.
Which is why is seems strange to me when some people insist that Messi could be the best player ever without winning a major international trophy. Apart from skill level, it's got to be looked at in terms of trophy success.
Just looking at Maradona, he carried most of the responsibility in a WC triumph. Granted Messi has had success and then some at club, but it could easily be argued that Barca's success would have happened with or without Messi. To the contrary, again Maradona was the main man behind getting Napoli their first ever league title and European Trophy. Unless Messi grows a pair and returns to the national team, or at the very least moves to prove, he can do it outside Barca - and not in another super team financied by huge sums - then he's not the best ever.
No, it's not
Maradona for me.
The Brazilian Ronaldo would also come close.
Messi is the best European league footballer of all time because he scores and creates like no other before him but with his talent and that of the Argentinian players alongside him for the last decade, he needed a World Cup or a plethora of Copa America titles to assume the world's best ever player mantle in my opinion.
The Brazilian Ronaldo would also come close.
Messi is the best European league footballer of all time because he scores and creates like no other before him but with his talent and that of the Argentinian players alongside him for the last decade, he needed a World Cup or a plethora of Copa America titles to assume the world's best ever player mantle in my opinion.
Best ever is a very hard thing to decide or prove, one of the best ever for sure - probably the most gifted and productive attacking player i've ever seen in my life too.
Best player that i've seen in his position in my life must still be Zidane. I think you can make a best ever XI from your generation and compare with players from other generations but the game has evolved so much that it's nigh impossible
I think that this would be my best XI i've watched live
[formation=4231, Buffon, Maldini, Nesta, Cannavaro, Roberto Carlos, Makelele, Redondo, Messi, Zidane, C Ronaldo, Ronaldo][/formation]
Best player that i've seen in his position in my life must still be Zidane. I think you can make a best ever XI from your generation and compare with players from other generations but the game has evolved so much that it's nigh impossible
I think that this would be my best XI i've watched live
[formation=4231, Buffon, Maldini, Nesta, Cannavaro, Roberto Carlos, Makelele, Redondo, Messi, Zidane, C Ronaldo, Ronaldo][/formation]
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