Didn't Vertonghen just give an interview saying Dembele was his only real friend at the club?
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Didn't Vertonghen just give an interview saying Dembele was his only real friend at the club?
Hazard was good for literally 3 months in 2016, and Ozil vanished last May and hasn't been seen since. This is ridiculous.Apparently... Apparently, according to FIFA his 2016 wasn't as good as Bravo. DDG, Buffon and Neuer I can cop on the chin but Bravo. Fuck off.
Which is good for us!Bravo won copa america, played for barca and won the local double and now plays for another big club. Lloris played for a team who finished third and came runners up at the euros. If he had won that, i dare say he would have been up there. Doesn't make bravo better, just means he stands out more.
It's fucking comical. And the game makers get their conclusions from...stats. The stats probably say Bravo is better than Hugo...yet watch them both play.That funny thing is that is where lots of people gain their opinions of players from, having never seen them play in some cases!
So......if the stats say Bravo is better than Hugo, surely we must have a problem in goal. Vorm has let in much less goals this season, time to change it up maybeIt's fucking comical. And the game makers get their conclusions from...stats. The stats probably say Bravo is better than Hugo...yet watch them both play.
Cech hasn't saved a single penalty for 3.5 seasons.The 10 best Premier League goalkeepers of the season so far
FFS! DT can't even read their own stats properly
WrongBravo won copa america, played for barca and won the local double and now plays for another big club.
Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd & Woolwich 'keepers ranked
By Adam Smith
Last Updated: 18/01/17 12:25pm
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But how do keepers from the current top six clubs compare?
The global football agency World in Motion's head of research and analytics Sam Jackson has produced a detailed study of each stopper's performances this season for his work with the agency's goalkeeping division GK1 Management.
His shot-stopping model looks at two different factors - how well a 'keeper responds to a shot on target and the difficulty of each shot faced.
SHOT RESPONSE
'Shot response' is gauged by how well a 'keeper deals with a shot faced - was it held at the first attempt, held at the second attempt, parried to safety, parried back into the danger zone, or was a goal conceded?
Tottenham's Hugo Lloris ranks top amongst the top six clubs for his average shot response this season, having held a higher percentage of his shots faced while conceding a league-low 14 goals from 21 games.
Manchester United's David de Gea ranks second, and also safely parries more shots than his counterparts, followed by Woolwich's Petr Cech, Simon Mignolet and Chelsea's Thibaut Courtois - with Claudio Bravo and Loris Karius ranking lowest.
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Bravo and Lloris have faced the easiest shots, although the City 'keeper has conceded nearly twice as many goals as the Spurs stopper.
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OVERALL
When combining the two parts of the model, the study finds De Gea to be the top shot-stopper at a top six club, with a 74 per cent rating.
Courtois ranks second overall (67 per cent), followed by Lloris (64 per cent), Cech (61 per cent), Karius (52 per cent), Mignolet (50 per cent) and Bravo ranking lowest with just 28 per cent.
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Jackson told Sky Sports: "It's important when we analyse 'keepers, we look at what actually matters - goalkeeper coaches want their players to hold shots rather than parrying them where possible.
"Looking at the data in this way. De Gea appears as an elite shot-stopper and the model agrees that Bravo has struggled.
"Mignolet has received plaudits for his performances since returning to the No. 1 slot at Anfield but some of Karius' shot-stopping woes may be explained by him having simply faced more difficult shots than his counterpart.
"Lloris, meanwhile, has been heralded by many for keeping so many clean sheets for Spurs this year, yet he has faced the easiest shots of any of the 'keepers at the top six clubs."
Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd & Woolwich 'keepers ranked
Good, so now we can have people criticize Lloris because he only has to face "easy" shots. If he does get easier shots, there's a few good reasons for that.
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Can't wait to see this sort of top-tier analysis for other positions:Ha ha ha god damn it..
Hugo dominates all objectively determinable criteria. Therefore, they use the only stat with a subjective input to land him on 3rd place.
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Can't wait to see this sort of top-tier analysis for other positions:
"Although Harry Kane technically has the most goals, we've determined that he is first in 'easiest chances' and therefore England's best striker is Marcus Rashford."