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Manager Mauricio Pochettino
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He's been coached into it yes. My point being playing a wide forward as a wing back isn't the shocking decision some are making out. Left Back yes. Left Wing Back no.
A wing backs primary role to attacking but having the engine to get back and help defend.
As I said, yes we could have played a defender there but that'd be a more negative approach and would have invited them on rather than trying to put them on the back foot.
Playing Vertonghen or Davies for that matter would just have given Moses the license to bomb forward without worry too much about tracking back.
Pretty sure you have to actually commit a foul in the box to conceded a penalty. Not dive over a player who slides in front of you.
If Dele Alli would have done the same we would not have heard the end of it yet.
Bollocks would they. With LB out injured in any team the most common back up selection is a defender. So hard to agree it would have raised eyebrows as Son's selection did.
The fact we conceded four goals for the first time? This season suggests that you're on your own in backing Poch to go with an atracking option at LB again.
Go read my posts again: I did not say that Son was solely to blame for our loss. You Imagined that.
Wow. Think that's your dummy on the floor mate not mine.
If you are seriously saying that if we saw the line up and Vertonghen was taken out of our rock solid CB threesome to play LWB people wouldn't have raised eyebrows? Give over.
Trippier out there was an option I'll concede but putting a right sided player on the opposite wing is just as risky. As I said, if you've played football competitively, particularly on either wing you'll understand that.
Ok. Heaven forbid we don't have a LB problem on Wednesday, but I'm going to be worried if Poch plays a man with zero defensive attributes as a left wing back. Palace have hit some very good form recently & have players who will run rings round Son.
I genuinely don't think Poch will play him there again. Son can't do what a defender is expected to do, & what his defensive unit would expect him to do as a matter of routine. That naturally disrupts the defence imo, & generates uncertainty.
We have defenders who can come into the team, & we can play Jan at LB. It's not an alien position to him & we aren't lost without him in the centre of a pairing. Jan is decent going forward & has a lovely pass in his locker. That, I think, is a far less risky option than Sonny.
Read the thread and you'll see that I'm not.
And this is the last time I'll bother pointing it out. Son played WING BACK not FULL BACK big difference in the level of defensive qualities required.
For what it is worth I think that Conte won the match for them; that was a hard lesson for MP, but an important one.
As ever on fan forums we are divided into those who think someone is infallible (the dreadfully myopic quasi religious 'In Klopp/Rafa/Jose we trust'), and those who are prepared to look at what went wrong and suggest ways to improve.
I personally believe that you learn more from your failures than you do from your successes (read Tim Harford's book 'Adapt' which looks at the American military's experience in Iraq if you're interested).
I'd rather have a manager who goes away, licks his wounds and addresses lessons learned rather than one who blames the referee, luck, the size of the pitch or whatever.
We are lucky to have one of the world's best young managers at our club; I am sure that he will, as we speak, be looking to put plans in place to get better and better.
COYS
As ever on fan forums we are divided into those who think someone is infallible (the dreadfully myopic quasi religious 'In Klopp/Rafa/Jose we trust'), and those who are prepared to look at what went wrong and suggest ways to improve.
I personally believe that you learn more from your failures than you do from your successes (read Tim Harford's book 'Adapt' which looks at the American military's experience in Iraq if you're interested).
I'd rather have a manager who goes away, licks his wounds and addresses lessons learned rather than one who blames the referee, luck, the size of the pitch or whatever.
We are lucky to have one of the world's best young managers at our club; I am sure that he will, as we speak, be looking to put plans in place to get better and better.
COYS
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thanks for educating the board mate.
can all those who haven't played competitively please log off..... clueless cunts.
I've been looking on t'interweb & I can't find anything to confirm he was injured or carrying a knock. Zilch.
Well I think that confirms which raw nerve triggered ur angry response.
For the record I'm not being precious about whether people have played the game or not. I simply asked you the question.
Cheers for the answer.
jesus. self awareness alert.
Let's recap. Got stroppy and called me a Cunt but accused me of spitting the dummy. Now you posted 2 replies with zero comments about the topic. I think someone's got The Last Word syndrome. (You can confirm by sending another silly reply
)you seem to have this weird visceral, slightly emotional reaction to anyone that doesn't agree with you. throwing out lines like 'if you've played you'd understand' is churlish - i simply pointed this out and called you stroppy.Let's recap. Got stroppy and called me a Cunt but accused me of spitting the dummy. Now you posted 2 replies with zero comments about the topic. I think someone's got The Last Word syndrome. (You can confirm by sending another silly reply
you are stroppy,clearly.
the irony of talking about last words while ensuring you get it is also lost on you.
have you met Juicey?
I don't understand why folk can't at least accept this as a legitimate argument. It's all "Who else would you have played there?" & "apart from the penalty, what did he do wrong"?
The penalty is a pretty big one of itself, but I would suggest that having a non defender "helping out" at LWB unsettled our defence & crippled his attacking qualities. He didn't offer us anything really, either in attack or defensively. I genuinely believe Poch just wanted to find a place for Son in the starting XI because of his recent form. Kane was always going to start & to accommodate Sonny, someone had to drop out.
If Davies wasn't fit, I would have played a defender there. Not have some experimental addition to the back 5. I also wouldn't have wasted a place on the bench.
And I still haven't found anything to say that Davies had an injury, except on here. What was this injury/knock & what was the source of that info?
It's actually the second........we also lost that game to Chelsea