This... + A large % of peeps here had said the same at the begining of the season.
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West Ham - League cup game
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This... + A large % of peeps here had said the same at the begining of the season.
Poch didnt tell them to throw the game nor did we lose cos we had some squad players out there.
We didnt lose by virtue of prioritisaton from above so such comments are moot.
Remember when that shit happened almost every week?
And it was a shock when we put in a decent performance.
These days its a shock when the "Spursy" hits.
Certain others have very short memories or dare I say it are very new fans.
Oh I see, I don't really readDon Giovanni 's posts.
I don't think he's a genuine Spurs fan. He just seems to like Lamela but pretty much hates all our other players. He'll get given a red card again soon hopefully.
Is this true or am i having a lovely dream?
Arc and Dane taken down. Solid.
I disagree. That back 5 was random as fuck. I'd be surprised if we ever saw our back 5 line up like that ever again. Rose's first start for nearly a year, Foyths complete lack of experience. Davies out of position (for us). You cant say that didnt contribute to how easily we got muscled off the ball and sucker punched.
I agree that we showed complacency and imaturity to manage the game but its logical to presume that a general sense of apathy toward the competition contributed in the players attitude of how they approached the game. They're part of the same machine, they know better than us what level of importance we have attributed to the comp in the past and how we will continue to do so.
As
Guido 🇺🇦
said, this comp is almost dead and buried, teams have been disrespecting it for years and years now. The competitions own organisers clearly have no respect for it, the sponsorship deal this year does it no favours at all and just adds to the general micky mouse feeling about the whole thing.That doesn't excuse the capitulation against a rival (more one way than anything), but imo it does go a little way to explain why the players may have approached it that way.
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Because your boys down the rd won a trophy but failed to qualify for the champions league? Do me a favor, you would’ve been arguing the exact opposite the ten years before.
Piece of advice, if your troll was less blatant it would be more effective
Some people expect us to go full strength in every competition and then if we did they'd get pissed off if we burn out at the end of the season and then end up with nothing. They'd also get pissed off if we concentrated our attentions on winning the FA and league cups and then fell three points short of winning the league. And they're pissed off we don't raise our game for playing West Ham because they're a rival but then they'd be even more pissed off if we lose to Man Utd.
In short, some people expect us to win every game and think because the same eleven players in the 60s/70s played in every fixture that it would be wise for the current lot to as well- even though the game has changed in many ways, it's much more high intensity, and other teams rotate.
I'm pissed off that we lost, more so because it's West Ham and I had to watch their muggy fans celebrating like they'd won the league than because we're out of a cup we almost certainly wasn't going to win, but I wouldn't read too much into this result. We started well but defensive organisation goes when you have players who are not so used to playing together, and after they got the first they just wanted it more, which is fair enough- it means more to them because it's the only trophy they have a chance of winning (even then a small one).
Many times Spurs and other teams have had bizarre results in domestic cups and still gone on to have a great season. I very much doubt Mourinho will now be thinking "oh Saturday will be easy because last night showed Spurs are soft".
As far as bragging rights go, we still have them- we won the league game, they won what was essentially a reserve game.
As an aside, I think that though we have improved the squad massively, we're still at least a couple of years off being able to realistically challenge on four fronts.
In short, some people expect us to win every game and think because the same eleven players in the 60s/70s played in every fixture that it would be wise for the current lot to as well- even though the game has changed in many ways, it's much more high intensity, and other teams rotate.
I'm pissed off that we lost, more so because it's West Ham and I had to watch their muggy fans celebrating like they'd won the league than because we're out of a cup we almost certainly wasn't going to win, but I wouldn't read too much into this result. We started well but defensive organisation goes when you have players who are not so used to playing together, and after they got the first they just wanted it more, which is fair enough- it means more to them because it's the only trophy they have a chance of winning (even then a small one).
Many times Spurs and other teams have had bizarre results in domestic cups and still gone on to have a great season. I very much doubt Mourinho will now be thinking "oh Saturday will be easy because last night showed Spurs are soft".
As far as bragging rights go, we still have them- we won the league game, they won what was essentially a reserve game.
As an aside, I think that though we have improved the squad massively, we're still at least a couple of years off being able to realistically challenge on four fronts.
I can see where you're coming from but for me, coming third and second the last two seasons has almost been like winning something such is my excitement at the way we play, the talent we've got, how Poch is developing the team (all without spending tons), and finally challenging the big spending established order. These are great times to be a Spurs fan, which is why I was so hurt and depressed about last night; not because we are out of the competition but because it was a flash back to the bad old days, when you could never trust our team to win games, even 2, 3 or 4 nil up! Just when I was beginning to develop some confidence!
So I can't agree that winning the League Cup and finishing 10th is, at the moment, better than finishing second again. Maybe if we are still in the top four after five years and have won nothing I might agree, but not yet. If we beat Utd on Saturday we march on to second in the league and all still to play for, apart from the Quadruple!
All true fella. The investigation into the finances is also 4 months late with it's findings! The stench of dodgy Pie & Mash is filling the air.
When the operators major source of income is only £2.5m pa rent, no naming rights partner, and a percentage of popcorn and candy floss sales it's only going to end one way. The operators go bust.
What's left?
1. Stadium lock-down nowhere to play (Upton Park demolished).
2. Absolutely ZERO public money will be pumped into it, as we are nearly at a billion quid already.
3. WHU Open Stadium - All running costs pilled onto WHU (they were in debt to a tune of £100m at a stadium less than half the size) no way could they operate this white elephant without incurring colossal debts.
4. Worst case scenario - They buy the stadium, public purse will demand £800m (lets not forget the value of land in stratford since building the stadium has at least quadrupled since construction). Then then still have all the running costs and an athletics bowl. For them to even change that e.g. dig down and actually build proper seating that would cost a similar amount to actually building a new stadium. I suppose it will mean the dildo's have something to sell and some other mug will have to incur that cost.
4. Whatever happens a backdrop to yet another saga that hanging over the Circus for years to come.
Toby knows.
No team has ever challenged on four fronts.
What's it been, 15yrs since the last double?? could be said no team is realistically challenged on two fronts.
I hope you're right about no more public money to subsidise the specsavers but I don't feel too confident. What an absolute joke and disgrace that the spanners are paying 2.5M rent and the cost of switching between football and athletics alone is 8M.
Red card vote administered as I’m fed up with this cunt and his multi Mindblown
I genuinely feel it will help with our mentality in our fight for bigger things.
Every single time we have been questioned, be that collapsing at the end of a season, not beating big sides, winning away from home, one season wonders, not keeping players, no plan 'b', one man team, you name it we have ended showing that isn't the case.
We oozed quality last night (first half) this created an air of "job done", I'm sure we will not see that again, and it has come at the right time with big games ahead in PL and CL, if there was a sense of over-confidence creeping in this will keep us grounded and focused.
Crap
Poch respects the players just not the competition
I’m mildly disappointed at it was Spam but that’s all and it’s all about Saturday
Remember when a lot of us, including me, were melting about losing to the scum in this tin pot competition in mid week and then we absolutely mullered a good Citeh team at the weekend!
I converted to Poch then and have been firmly in his camp since
A lot of posters who havent been around out in force today