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Manager Mauricio Pochettino
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I didn't say that we should have played Lloris.
Simple question - do you think playing him would have made a difference to the final score?
Cassé as the French kids would say!!
I'm saying a bonafide first team signing like Bale, Modric, Kroos...
When they signed Danilo it wasn't for the first team in mind. He got bumped into the team because of Carvajal injury.
Morata barely palyed, he was nothing but a fringe player, it's why he left.
I apologise on omitting Curtoise which was this year. I made this claim on Madrid's signings previously to this summers window, which is why it was in my memory but forgot to add this season.
Madrid has made a number of signings, they have spent a lot of money on a few very young players that they hope to bring in, like Assensio who is now starting to break into the team, but the point I'm making is they haven't brought a player that goes into their first team, like those mentioned above. The last person to do that was Kroos, in that year they also bought James, who did make first team but then got dropped and sold.
Atleti had a transfer ban, so couldn't play Costa.
Impossible to say, I don't have a crystal ball. But I can say that Vorm wasn't the reason why we lost.
You can’t say that for certain
Taken out of his hands by whom?
Completely get what you're saying, but I genuinely think the first trophy is the hardest and frankly, at this point I would rather win the not red bull cup as opposed to going out on the the first knockout of the CL ( not saying, I stress, that I don't want us to throw everything at the premiership or not qualify for the CL...buy we need that first pot)
Somewhere there's an alternative universe where we won that first league cup, and subsequently best Leicester and the chavs to the league. And in said universe,
Tottenham Massive
is still whining about Levy
Yes. I'm sure levy awards his own salary and bonus.
But we have focused on the Cups. The teams we put out in the semi's and Final were not rotated sides.Completely get what you're saying, but I genuinely think the first trophy is the hardest and frankly, at this point I would rather win the not red bull cup as opposed to going out on the the first knockout of the CL ( not saying, I stress, that I don't want us to throw everything at the premiership or not qualify for the CL...buy we need that first pot)
Somewhere there's an alternative universe where we won that first league cup, and subsequently best Leicester and the chavs to the league. And in said universe,
That's exactly what I am saying.
But not the strongest either..son at wing back, vorm instead of Lloris. I would have picked Lloris, not for the shite reasons we are hearing from others, cos I knew iny heart vorm was playing, not out of hindsight blaming him(vorm) for the goals, cos they weren't his fault, but cos he's(Lloris) a better keeper and, imo, brings the best out of his team mates: I think the defence trusts him more
Practically everyone on here was angry to see Vorm named on the team sheet. Particularly in the light of 6 successive SF defeats...
A clear indication the manager/club did not take the FA Cup seriously
He subsequently had a mare which made a huge contribution to our loss.
Why are you trying to justify this. I don't understand your stance.
Is it any wonder so many on here claim you're some kind of PR mouthpiece for the regime?
I don't think it was, which is why I said if.
It was more likely a gentleman's agreement pre-season between Poch and Vorm that Vorm would play all domestic cup ties.
Which would indicate that Poch don't take the cups seriously. Even Semi Finals.
Or it was written into Vorm's contract, which is unlikely, but would indicate the club couldn't give a fuck about domestic cup competitions.
Or, do you or
Guido 🇺🇦
genuinely think Vorm was selected because Poch thought that gave us more chance of winning the tie?
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but even here we are talking one player. Conte left their best player, Hazard & Costa on the bench was he not taking it seriously?
What have other 6 semi-finals got to do with anything? What has those results got to do with Vorm and Poch?
Did Conte betray and disrespect Chelsea fans for leaving Hazard and Costa on the bench when we played them?
Vorm didn't have a mare, do you say a 'keeper has a mare whenever a goal is conceded?
What do you mean why am I trying to justify this? I disagree vehemently that Vorm was the reason we lost, I disagree vehemently that Poch disrespected & betrayed us fans. I'm not justifying anything, I'm disagreeing.
He did have a mare. He was at fault for both goals. But you're clearly not prepared to admit it so I'll move on...
Why do you think Poch selected Vorm ahead of Hugo for the Semi Final? Genuine question. Whats you're best guess?
And? We weren't finishing 4th, 5th and 4th under any other manager with Redknapp - the outcome is the same whether you finish 4th or 2nd, it's CL regardless. So this sudden exaltation of 3rd place is beyond absurd.
We finished 11 points behind Leicester and 7 points behind Chelsea (and never held top spot in either campaign). But hey we were considered title challengers ( although nowhere near close to winning it to use your phrase) and that is all that matters hey? To complete the Redknapp revisionsim we were talked about title contenders in the first half of the season and the City game is continually referenced but lets not let this get in the way.
I made no mention of being title contenders so lets not waste my time by making things up. I mentioned the domestic cups and UEFA cup which we have been good enough to win in the last 13 years - and that applied during AVBs first season as well. Why Sherwood's tenure is continually referenced is beyond absurd - he was always an interim manager which is reflected in 28 games her managed for us. - we were never going to win anything in that circumstance.