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Transfers Summer 2019 transfer thread

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Right and the expectation is that we make the champions league, it is even higher now we got to the final. The manager himself is helping drive that expectation up, he wants to open a new chapter and spend like the richer clubs, he'll possibly have a big spend this season and then what?

Then we keep on going until we organically go from being the 6th most valuable to the fourth, and then the third hopefully and see if we can nick something along the way. He's done fantastically well and we of course have to strive to continue our growth but we do have debts, we do need a rational balance of expectation and how we conduct our business.

Our stock is high but we cannot be reckless with every signing and every move we make. It needs to be a balance of shrewd and costly. For every £50m signing there needs to be a clever one that goes under the radar. Scout well, take a few risks but equally invest in the long term
 


If that's the sort of price to get Hazard then we'd be lucky to get £60,000,000.

And considering we have Levy in charge, this'll drag to the final day.
 


If that's the sort of price to get Hazard then we'd be lucky to get £60,000,000.

And considering we have Levy in charge, this'll drag to the final day.


£65m I think is the sweet spot for a player of Eriksens quality. Get that and I think all parties can be pretty happy with that. Anything lower than £60m and it starts looking like a poor deal for Spurs but the £60m-£65m Mark seems fair if Hazard is going for £88m.
 
Skipp hasn't yet shown what he's capable of. Maybe there's a world beater in there already. But more importantly, we need players who can play well together as a team, who compliment each other. Look at Liverpool's squad and tell me how many world beaters they've got? The reason why they did so well this season, is because they have a team that works as a unit. If any of them leave and go to play for a different club, they will not reach their highs of this season.

I get your point and it really is about spending correctly. But in terms of world beaters : 6 of their regular 11 certainly are (salah, mane, firmino, van dijk, alison, alexander arnold) along with robertson and keita being quite good.

If we spend well this summer there is no reason we can't match liverpool and city in a year or two. Lo Celso, Ndombele, and Wan Bissaka are all 23 or younger and would walk into our first team with room to get even better.
 
I get your point and it really is about spending correctly. But in terms of world beaters : 6 of their regular 11 certainly are (salah, mane, firmino, van dijk, alison, alexander arnold) along with robertson and keita being quite good.

If we spend well this summer there is no reason we can't match liverpool and city in a year or two. Lo Celso, Ndombele, and Wan Bissaka are all 23 or younger and would walk into our first team with room to get even better.

That's what I'm alluding too. The players you've mentioned for Liverpool weren't world beaters when they joined Liverpool - Alison perhaps being the exception. But they work well in this team. Firmino is the perfect example - he's a decent player and will score goals whereever he goes, but he works best in this constalation with Salah and Mane in a front 3.
 
That's what I'm alluding too. The players you've mentioned for Liverpool weren't world beaters when they joined Liverpool - Alison perhaps being the exception. But they work well in this team. Firmino is the perfect example - he's a decent player and will score goals whereever he goes, but he works best in this constalation with Salah and Mane in a front 3.
Got it, we are on the same page then
 
I get your point and it really is about spending correctly. But in terms of world beaters : 6 of their regular 11 certainly are (salah, mane, firmino, van dijk, alison, alexander arnold) along with robertson and keita being quite good.

If we spend well this summer there is no reason we can't match liverpool and city in a year or two. Lo Celso, Ndombele, and Wan Bissaka are all 23 or younger and would walk into our first team with room to get even better.

For me Wan-Bissaka toes the risky line too much. 1.5 years playing at a team expected to lose more than they win and they are rumoured to want over £50m for him, possibly more?

For me he has good quality, I really like him but I don't think our club can fork out for him if we are going for the likes of Ndombele & Lo Celso. Those 3 and you're looking at c£200m it's too much to expect from our board and stature at present IMO
 
Lo Celso looks a very tidy player, very well balanced, carries the ball forward well without doing stupid roll overs and drag backs. Solid technique and strikes a ball well.

2 things stand out though in all the videos I've watched of him. Serious overuse of his left foot and very little with his right. And very little evidence of the ability to play long, accurate passes. He always seems to want to go short even when there's an option to go longer.

Can't see him as an Eriksen replacement, more a Dembele one who'd compete with Winks, and would bring more goals from that position.
 
Comfortable means average IMO. Hes not a game changer. And in central midfield you have to be. Its the most important position

Odd, I'm pretty sure Modric wasn't a game changer either. He helped control the ball and made himself available to receive and redistribute to the game changers.

A look through the online match ratings for the big games where he has played (e.g. Madrid, Barcelona, Dortmund) tells you that Winks is regularly in the top half of our performers.
 
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