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Management What was the turning point for you towards Poch?

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Half a season of unwatchable performances and the decline of our once magnificent squad was one thing, but it continued into this season and I knew it was over

Take your pick for turning points, apart from Palace and Red Star x2, every game this season has been appalling for at least one entire half.
No mate, it turned for you much earlier - 4 years earlier in fact.

This from September 2015.
I think its ironic that it was a win that has put the final nail in the coffin for me regarding Poch and Levy.
Both can fuck off. We are an awful, awful side, who play atrocious football as a norm.
Fucking abysmal.
 
That pre-season presser when he just wanted to scrap with every journalist in the room. When asked about Eric Lamela's form which was perfectly lined up for a positive comment and he just turned on the journo and started ranting.

Bayern and Brighton were the final nails but from that point, I just didn't think he wanted to be here.
 
i think that the last half of the season last year was troubling, but i chose to ignore it because of the exciting CL run. but with the start of this year looking every bit as horrific as we did from january on, i started feeling like there should be a change.

the newcastle match really showed what was going on, but the bayerm and brighton results convinced me
 
I was a big fan of Pochettino. But his failure as a manager is his failure to adapt. In many ways he brought the team as far as he was capable of. Stubborn? No doubt. Not heavy handed enough to deal with a seasoned club where key players are at the end of there contract. I know he will do well in other clubs. Big clubs where the players know there place. It seems Tottenham have developed a culture where players rate themselves over the club.
 
Wanyama coming on away at Leicester. That was when I realised that Poch was not serious anymore. The players legs don’t work and he was on his way to Belgium weeks earlier, he should never have been involved. After that horrible cameo he exiled him from the squad but why did the manager need to see him cost us a game before understanding that?
 
Giving in to starting unfit Kane too early again on the CL final. That was the day he really could and should have stopped it.
 
I wanted the club to give him a lot more time, but his comments before the CL Final was the point where he really started to annoy me.

Yeah, I will always love the bloke but I think that was the nail in the coffin with the board. A very strange thing to say and his behaviour and selections in the biggest games have been suspect. Wish he was still here and he could take that final step with us, but if someone like Maureen comes in and enables us to take that final step, then Poch will have a place of honour in our journey from mid-table 90s team to top 4 challengers starting with, BMJ - Harry - Poch - ??
 
Wanyama coming on away at Leicester. That was when I realised that Poch was not serious anymore. The players legs don’t work and he was on his way to Belgium weeks earlier, he should never have been involved. After that horrible cameo he exiled him from the squad but why did the manager need to see him cost us a game before understanding that?
Yes that was a complete joke to take Sissoko off and bring on Wanyama who completely caused mayhem for us. He should never have been anywhere near the bench, that was almost sabotage.
 
An understated factor is the farce around moving in to the new ground.

All of us online were fucking pissed and in the end the constant delays just led to apathy. We're fans. The players and management probably were just as pissed and full of apathy too.

Wembley was a souless place to watch football every week and that no doubt transfired to the dressing room. And every week that passed whereby we had to stay there must have deflated the mood in the club.
 
It started when he was talking about leaving if we won the CL. It got worse when he refused to treat the contract rebels like he treated other trouble makers as he did in the past. The absolute final straw was having to be bailed out by the worst VAR call ever to salvage a FUCKING DRAW AT HOME to Sheffield.
 
its been a slow burn
Same here really a combination! though I didn’t want him gone, he said things that made you think....Mm “why say that” like I might leave after the CLF if we won! Plus things he didn’t do after a defeat Bayern & Colchester for example in fact any domestic cup defeat he just shrugged them of as “shit happens” I wanted him to feel angry same as we did the majority wanted a domestic up......but perhaps more than he did! Really just a build up.
 
The Sheffield United game. I was in total disbelief for two days at how badly they played. It was so glaringly obvious that it was over after seeing that game.
 
I’m pissed off with the players too. It’s not as if the want a way rebels have had many better offers. Roma were about all that were interested inAlderweireld, Watford in Rose and Eriksen just made a clown of himself with his come and get me plea to Barcelona and Real Madrid. I do think there’s an element though that players didn’t believe Pochettino had it in them to get them over the line. That’s corrosive.

We had the team to win league in 2015/16 & 2016/17 and I’d have bitten anyone’s hand off for an FA Cup win. Seeing Woolwich win it twice and Man U under Van Gaal during Pochettino’s tenure was fairly galling.
 
I’m afraid that it probably becoming a cliche among us Spurs fans but for me, it was the European Cup Final..

Sure, the domestic football from Wolves onwards last season was atrocious. It was the CL run which glossed over it. We looked lethargic and tired and injury prone. I was willing to believe the 2018WC had taken it out of our players. I was ready to maintain my faith in Poch and either a grassroots/low key rebuild or a summer of rest and motivating the same loyal (ha ha) group.

Instead, we had the bizarre build up to the biggest game of our (collective - fans, players, coaches, board) lives and then such an insipid, turgid, shameful performance lacking any technical or tactical nous, inspiration or in game management. Against a tired and off par Liverpool team too.

Excuse the melodrama if you please but I’m still not over our performance that night and probably never will be. Unfortunately, it’s Poch that carries the can for that one.

Since June (& despite a good pre-season) it’s been downhill all the way. There isn’t a particular performance this season that has signalled the end for me, just the knowledge that since June it was inevitable
 
Sub consciously, when I stopped posting on here now I think about it.

I'll always love Spurs, it's like a first true love.

But you know evertyrhing had just pushed me to the point where I needed a break.

Didn't even bother to watch the Bayern game, I knew something bad was coming.

I'm just glad we got this done now and not later. The memories are fantastic and I don't want them any further sullied by a horrible slow decline, which let's be honest, CL aside has defined 2019 for us.
 
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