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Supporters Rudiger claims he heard monkey chants

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When the club say inconclusive that basically means they have found nothing (yet). Gestures would be easy to spot. The lip reader has not been able to say conclusively that anyone verbally abused him (yet).

But a Chelsea fan racially abused Son and was arrested.

There is going to be some serious egg on a few faces.
Surely we should be waiting to see the evidence? Innocent till proven guilty etc?

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Oh, you mean the one that backs up everthing I said??

"At this time however we should point out that our findings are inconclusive and would ask that comment is reserved until the facts are established."

Does t really back up everything you said? I must have missed the part where the club said the fans were embarrassing for asking for evidence before passing judgement.
 
The club may yet find something, and Rudiger may well have seen what he saw.

It is not his fault this accelerated out of hand. That lies firmly with mass media as well as SoMe.
 
I mean, if you think it happened you think it happened. People can be sure and be wrong. Rudiger isn’t the problem here.

It's those media bankers that have basically found us guilty and flagged the club off all day and also reactionary nobheads who phone in and say they should shut that section or the whole stadium and play behind closed doors. Cunts one and all
 
This isn't me being pedantic, or rose tinted... BUT WHERE was the FA inquiry and media Uproar when a FOURTEEN year old Burnley fan made slitty eyed gestures and aimed rascist abuse at Son 2 weeks ago.... ? There wasn't one.
He was ejected (rightly so) and that was that...

So now why are they wanting to come down on us like a ton of bricks cos of one idiot!

...as opposed to the thousands of Chelsea/West Ham racists we've been subjected to for DECADES...
Where's the FA enquiry on THEM, eh?
 
Wow... This thread is an utter embarrassment... I think everyone agrees it sucks that our club is now being lambasted in the media, before due process and arrests made .etc.. but that really is just the way it is now, get used to it... There were headlines for Yeovil V Harringay...

It's still an important issue in football and it needs highlighting wherever it's reported. My hope like everyone's it that it's a misunderstanding, but after the England game all the Bulgarians at the ground were on twitter saying they never heard anything.

Either way, you want due process for Spurs, why won't afford Rudiger the same? Instead many are skipping straight to not believing him or insulting him... Why can't you wait till the investigation is complete, before saying "any evidence yet?" or other such comments..

What you are showing is 'Conformation Bias' because you looking for any opinion (or in this case lack of option) that proves no racism occurred yesterday, because that's your pre-existing view of the events. You're not being open minded enough to accept it could happen.

please can the posters below tak a long hard look at themselves, as if anyone from outside spurs looked at this forum what would they make of us all???
You've picked singular posts out of a broader ranging discussion

Virtue signalled and recieved though. Well done
 
This isn't me being pedantic, or rose tinted... BUT WHERE was the FA inquiry and media Uproar when a FOURTEEN year old Burnley fan made slitty eyed gestures and aimed rascist abuse at Son 2 weeks ago.... ? There wasn't one.
He was ejected (rightly so) and that was that...

So now why are they wanting to come down on us like a ton of bricks cos of one idiot!

...as opposed to the thousands of Chelsea/West Ham racists we've been subjected to for DECADES...
Where's the FA enquiry on THEM, eh?

This. Just this.

I honestly don't think most media realise that racism occurs towards all nationalities...
Is the lack of media coverage towards this because there are so few Asian footballers in this country? If so, that's a fucking disgrace.
 
Does t really back up everything you said? I must have missed the part where the club said the fans were embarrassing for asking for evidence before passing judgement.

That's not what I said though dude, I said it was embarrassing that ppl, as you did, would not afford Rudiger the same due process we wanted for Spurs... Because you pre-judged the outcome...

i.e.
"There is nothing clear, there is no evidence, there are no others that saw or heard a thing. "
 
If you didn't think a reaction against so-called PC culture would see an actual increase in prejudice than you are woefully naive.
Brexit DID embolden racists and xenophobes though, of that there is no doubt but of course the vast majority of people that voted Leave aren't racists nor xenophobic.

I suspect there was no monkey chanting or gestures and Rudiger simply misinterpreted the chants and what was being sung. I hope so anyway.

Shit game and result, don't need the stink if racism to go along with it.

Merry fucking Christmas indeed.

:pochunimpressed:

Oh and maybe we were a bit too hasty to hail Jose as the Messiah and label Poch as a failure but that's a debate for another day.
As Will Self said; "Not all leave voters are racist... but all racists voted leave!"

Says a lot... know the company you keep!
 
Is this not the least bit suspicious to people?

The fact that we have said nothing about this yet released a statement saying how brilliant our cameras are. Well if they're so brilliant how come they havent picked out the cunt throwing objects? And if they have then why are we not mentioning it?

I actually don't like the statement we have put out one bit.
I'm sure they have, and he will be getting a letter telling him he has a lifetime ban.
 
This is absolutely no reflection of Rudiger's claims. I'm sure a Premier League footballer who knows the severity of accusing someone of racism/knows that there are cameras everywhere that will likely back him up would never make something like this up. But as a few on here have brought up whether or was mistaken or misheard the 'abuse' I thought I'd share a pretty wank experience I was part of last year.

I played a game at the end of last season and one of our lads called a member of the opposition a fat, ugly cunt after he received a blatant elbow to the face at a corner.

The guy was a well known cunt in our league, trying to snap legs every 5 minutes, giving out abuse constantly and he was indeed, fat and ugly. It just so happened that he was black as well.

The referee was standing no more than 5 metres away and clearly heard every single thing that was actually said (it was clear as daylight and very loud). My wife who was standing 40 metres away could hear what he said too. Yet, the twat claimed he was called 'a fucking n*****'. The ref looked around as if to say 'what the fuck am I supposed to do?!', everyone else (including some on the other team) were shouting 'what the fuck are you talking about', 'fucking bollocks' etc... but sure enough, out came the red card. Not only did he get sent off but he was subjected to a police enquiry which went on for absolutely fucking ages. Thankfully nothing came of it, but sure enough, the bloke who made it up is still playing week in, week out. He's still a complete prick but no one says a fucking word to him now. We played them again a couple of weeks ago and a load of the team flat out refused to play on the same pitch as him.

I guess the point I'm making is that the amount of weight a racism accusation carries nowadays is a sign of how seriously we take things. So when you hear stuff by certain people implying that we're all a bunch of racist neanderthal cunts in England, it pisses me right off. It's just a shame that there are some people out there who take advantage of this.
 
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