I can't profess to watching him loads, but did watch him a couple of times because we'd been linked, wasn't blown away TBH. I mean he'd probably be an upgrade on what we've got now, he had a good engine, ok technically, but didn't really do anything exceptional. I could be wrong though, would need to watch more.
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I can't profess to watching him loads, but did watch him a couple of times because we'd been linked, wasn't blown away TBH. I mean he'd probably be an upgrade on what we've got now, he had a good engine, ok technically, but didn't really do anything exceptional. I could be wrong though, would need to watch more.
The sickening thing is that the money is there we are a wealthy club, but levy chooses a different path which as you say some fans have been hoodwinked into, these gullable fans are heading for disappointment.
Should be a yellow at least right there.
All semblance of comprehension goes out the window with some of these children.
Idiots like that just chat any old crap thinking that posting some bullshit to facilitate a "sick burn" is somehow winning life.
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So explain to me what was so much better in the Brighton game that I said compared to the bournmouth game?
You ain't spurs you are some random football fan who is on a wind up on here or mourinho slept with your Mrs it's one of the 2
Balking is a bit of a stretch, I am saying that I hope we can do better than Brozovic and PEH as our two big additions in the transfer window. As I said I may be overrating our abilities or ambitions as a club but when you see Inter with players like Barella, already and then rumours of Tonali it is frustrating that Spurs are left talking about adding Brozovic. It mainly came out of my frustrations with Brozovic being the MF talked about coming back when a player like Barella is the level of player I think we should be targetting.
I also have no issue if we bring in Brozovic and then do not add PEH and instead bring in a better CM than either to play with them. What I am not keen on seeing is some variation of a midfield 3 or 2 with GLC playing in front of them of Brozovic-PEH-GLC. To me that is far too pedestrian of a midfield for me that is very limited in its passing like we saw this year with Winks-Sissoko, It is an upgrade on that but nearly as much of an upgrade as we should be looking at and not one that gets us into the top 4.
Its not what I am arguing about with Ndombele because he is not the level of player that a Barella or Tonali is. He doesn't have that talent level and certainly doesn't have that effort level. He is a lazy player unwilling and able to put in a full 90 minute effort, that doesn't have close to the talent level to coast as much as he does. There is nothing close to dynamic about his game at all.
A new Matic?
Who said there was anything better about the Brighton game?
And why am I not a Spurs fan because I don't blindly support Jose? Is that what it takes to be a Spurs fan you blindly support the manager without having concerns about them? Ignore the clear signs that they might not win the league with your team each year they are here?
We struggled mightly to create chances in the majority of games with Jose in charge. It is not crazy or a "wind up" to suggest that this might be an issue with him going forward. We have seen similar concerns raised by many about his time in Manchester United as well.
You’re arguing against Jose’s football is kinda pointless. For me, it’s not what I want to watch either, but as he’s gonna be here for at least the season I at least want him to have some players in to try and make it work. If it doesn’t then we can all move on.
So you think Brozovic is the highest level of player that fits Jose system that we can get?
Again maybe it comes down to me expecting too much from this club but can't we get players that fit Jose's system and are at a high-ish level?
Or maybe bring in some young guys that fit Jose's system but also have some room for development as well?
I mean maybe this is what we are a club that gets the 27 year old scraps from Inter and insert them to their starting line-up.
There just seems like we could do so much more than a Brozovic-PEH two man pivot with GLC forced into another season of having to do all the work creating, linking up the back 4 with the forwards and making anything other than a routine pass from the midfield.
Walked away with 2 trophies at man u and they were in trouble before he got there. I don't blindly follow anyone but i have more trust in a manager that has proven he is one of the best in the business and will accept the football if it brings trophies
You have done nothing but moan and moan and moan about spurs not one positive thing said. We obviously ain't the club for you try city or liverpool you'll be happier
It got better though, didn't it?
Last 4 games:
| ARSE-ANAL | H | 2-1 |
| NEWCASTLE | A | 3-1 |
| LEICESTER | H | 3-0 |
| PALACE | A | 1-1 |
I don't want Hojbjerg at all. Just to be clear. I'd love to bring in a DM and a really good CM, but what we need more than anything is a decent DM/6 because IMO we already have players like Lo Celso and Ndombele who need that type of player so they can do what they do best which is play more as 8's.
I think you are wrong about Ndombele. I don't think there are too many midfielders out there with his skill set, and I also do not think he's lazy per se. I just don't think he's the type of midfielder that tears around like a loon. there is a lot of grey area between the two extremes.
Whatever flaws he has, most players are flawed, but if they have some exceptional abilities - and I think Ndombele has - he is a midfielder who is very comfortable talking the ball under pressure, can break through that pressure - a lot like Dembele could - but even better than Dembele, Ndombele can actually then play extremely vertical and incisive passes. They are extremely rare combined skills in a midfielder, but you have to find the blend to get the best out of them. He is not as good as Dembele eventually became without the ball, but that was a long evolution with Dembele, who started life as an AM/forward player, but he is a much better user of the ball than Dembele ever was.
He's a compromised footballer, but most are, but few have the upside Ndombele does if you can balance it off with a busy cunt next to him to take up some of the graft slack.
I think you're underrating Brozovic a little, I think he's a pretty good player of his type, and two years ago I'd have had him quite high on my wish list for a 6/DM. It's only because he's now 27, and there are players like Kessie, Camavinga, who are younger and excite me a little more that he's dropped down the list a little. Good footballing 6 though, and in Mourinho (who I don't love either) system, would be ideal I think.
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I have said plenty of positive things, it is true that after our worst season in 5-6 years that there is more complaints that positives. I think that is the case for many Spurs fan. I am not the type of fan that just sees everything as awesome for my club and is scared to critcize the club or players. If that is too hard for you to handle then feel free to put me on ignore.
As for Jose. he got two trophies for United, great for him. He has had success in the past with other clubs as well. Nobody is questioning whether Jose is an all time great manager or if he has been able to get results in the past.
The issue is whether Jose is still at the level of manager currently, whether his tactics work currently in todays game, whether those tactics work in the current EPL and whether those tactics work with a team like Spurs where he will not have the budget he had at United, Chelsea or RM.
If you honestly think that it is not far to question the ability of his team to create enough chances after watching him at United and in his short time at Spurs i am not sure what to say. It is a completely justifiable concern. It should be something all Spurs fans are questioning.
I've always thought advocating cards on other posters is a little bit snide, tbh.
Cowardly, even.
Surely people can make their own mind up?
Nobody fives a fuck what you think.
Wind up merchant
Yet here you are replying back...
Honestly with Ndombele I don't need him to be tearing around like a loon out on the field and if it was just my concerns from watching him appear to be lazy on the field I wouldn't be that worried, but I am not sure how his off field fitness concerns from France both as a young player and in his time in Lyon, plus him showing up out of shape here in the summer can't be major red flags. It is the combination of his off field issues that match up with lackidasical play on the field that really worry me.
It would also be nice if he actually showed some skill in a Spurs jersey, but his supporters keep assuring us that it is there so I will try and give him the benefit of the doubt there.
i agree we need a player exactly like Ndombele's supporters think he is, I just have seen no evidence that he is that player.