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Transfers Summer 2020 Transfer Thread

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You agree that is what Jose will do or agree that is what he should do?

That is a terrible starting 11 and if that is our preferred squad in the PL we should be very concerned. Looks a lot like the team that couldn't create anything after the break.

GLC will have to come back so deep to get the ball or pray that Toby can hit him with long balls.

I don't disagree that is likely what Jose will do, but it certainly isn't what he should do or near good enough if we think we are competing for top 4.
I don´t think that´s a terrible eleven. But I´ll answer you.

As I´ve been saying for a while, I think Jose is building the team with two players in front of the back four. I think he will keep the formation (4-2-3-1) while changing the players according to the opposition.

Against big teams, I can perfectly see Jose playing the team mentioned by Gatsby Gatsby . Against teams expected to sit deep, exactly because we are going to need more attacking players, I believe Jose will play a Lo Celso-Hojbjerg pivot, with four attacking players ahead of them - this will happen through the majority of the season, by the way.

COYS
 
Yh I agree Tbf when I said double figures I kinda meant kane wants to be getting 20+, sonny 15+ n dele hopefully 10-15 should be his target

Just teasing... :)

I think we can expect 10 from Bergwijn across all comps too. Could do with GLC & Lucas chipping in more.... Got Eriksens past numbers to cover somehow.

If Sonny is gonna be playing more central we could do with him hitting 20 if he stays fit
 
I don´t think that´s a terrible eleven. But I´ll answer you.

As I´ve been saying for a while, I think Jose is building the team with two players in front of the back four. I think he will keep the formation (4-2-3-1) while changing the players according to the opposition.

Against big teams, I can perfectly see Jose playing the team mentioned by Gatsby Gatsby . Against teams expected to sit deep, exactly because we are going to need more attacking players, I believe Jose will play a Lo Celso-Hojbjerg pivot, with four attacking players ahead of them - this will happen through the majority of the season, by the way.

COYS

Its a starting 11 with almost no creativity or way to create offense outside of GLC and Kane/Son doing something amazing individually.

Just like last year it is a team that relies totally on GLC coming back to the back 4 to collect the ball and move it up to the front players, one of which you don't want to have the ball because of how poor they with the ball at their feet.

Its basically saying remember all those issues we had last year that resulted in us finishing 6th and looking bad doing it? Lets run the same basic team out there with marginal upgrades in two positions and the exact same issues with ball movement and creativity and hope we get a completely different outcome.

Moura, Winks and Davies as starters is embarrassing.
 
Can I say, I really hate and I mean REALLY HATE those 2 sky twats Kaveh Solekal and Darmesh Sheth.

Like the two of them have the most slappable faces in existence, and the "I've just got a text from a source close to the deal" bit fucks me off an unnatural amount.

I guess with Darmesh constantly pushing Poch about United made me hate the little weasel's guts anyway then tweeted thanking people for the support after a hard few days! what a snivelly little prick!

as for Kaveh with his weird serial killer smile fucks me off too I honestly hate them both to pieces.

Sky chastise Peter Graves, genunie Newcastle fan for having an opinion but these two arseholes can spout all the shit they want for an hour every day and they're lauded.

Fucking cunts, the pair of them.
 
head above the parapet: what he said in Spanish wouldn't be considered racist. The rest of his rap-sheet is all true. He's scum.
Going to beg to differ mate.

Yes, it's a fairly common nickname in Spanish, although almost always in my experience for people who aren't actually black or mixed race, but "Spanish but darker than average" if you know what I mean. I know a bloke, half Spanish, half Italian, who everyone calls "Negro" (his second surname is something like Negrini and he's sort of swarthy looking) . A propos of nothing really, he's an anarchist, his mates who call him that are anarchist-punk types (including my brother-in-law), not people you'd associate with racism. Personally, I call him Javi.

I used to have a black mate here from the US, his Spanish family called him "Negrito" which they assured him was cariñoso, "more friendly". He absolutely hated it, understandably.

Even so, the guilty parties, if that's what you want to call them, could give the defence that they considered themselves to be Chris's friends. Suárez wasn't Patrice Evra's friend in any sense of the word.

Words change meaning in their context, as we as Spurs fans know from the "Yid" debate. For example, the word "Scouse(r)" is happily used by Liverpudlians, as well as by non-Liverpudlians when talking to/about people from that city in a friendly way. Say it with a snarl, or add the word "wanker" and its meaning changes 180º. Get in Steven Gerrard's face and say "Eh Scouse" twenty-odd times in 90 seconds and he'll spank you. You probably won't even get to ten.

Which is the essential part of this case. Suárez called Evra "Negro" - not his nickname, no bond of friendship existing - twenty-odd times in 90 seconds, inches from his face. That's incredibly insulting (it would be if you followed me around and barked Bill in my face over and over again in a non-friendly way), and yes, it crosses the line into racist abuse, given Evra's skin colour and Suárez's obvious knowledge of the meaning of the word.

He knew what he was doing and why 100%
 
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I'm not advocating ignoring making some use of good academy youngsters, I'm saying I'll reserve judgement on the success of that when/if it actually happens. I've been here before where kids get games in pre-season, do well, and then disappear again.

I am not a huge fan of Aurier, and I get that there might be some IQ upside with Doherty, I just don't see enough general upgrade from Aurier to Doherty to make it worth having a player a year older - and one who's 29yo in 5 months - effectively swapping for similar money.

I can understand Mourinho's thinking on this, but not really impressed with Levy's, as I think it's just kicking a squad problem can down the road for another year.

There are other viable options out there, I'm not saying they are perfect solutions, but at least they allow us to move them on, maybe even make some money (or at least not lose most of it) if they don't work out.

If we aren't going to have a DOF then it's Levy's job to oversee the construction of the squad, ignoring who scouts and selects our targets, Levy understands the principle of age/inherent value.

The Doherty deal really is a no-brainer, as was the Hojbjerg deal. There really isn't much more to it.

Prem proven players who add missing ingredients to the squad - what's not to like?
 
The Doherty deal really is a no-brainer, as was the Hojbjerg deal. There really isn't much more to it.

Prem proven players who add missing ingredients to the squad - what's not to like?
A reliable RB and an industrious, defensive minded midfielder were our two biggest needs.

We got two players in at basically no cost (once we account for selling Aurier) who are both premier league proven and fill our two biggest needs.

If coronoavirus hadn't happened they may not have been the two we signed/wanted, but given the financial reality, it's excellent business.

Now just get a backup/rotational striker and our three biggest needs have been addressed.
 
The Doherty deal really is a no-brainer, as was the Hojbjerg deal. There really isn't much more to it.

Prem proven players who add missing ingredients to the squad - what's not to like?

I think it certainly is debatable if they add missing ingredients, Hjobjerg especially.

But beyond that there certainly are questions about how much they bring and if we should not be adding better players than these two or in Doherty's case better and younger with better potential.

Both signings are fine signing that help us maintain our place in the top 6 but do little to help us compete for the top 4 both next year and certainly going forward.

RB is solved for next year but still an issue for the club going forward. We still have no true DM and have a major lack of creativity/passing ability in the MF especially if Tanguy is not playing for us.
 
A reliable RB and an industrious, defensive minded midfielder were our two biggest needs.

We got two players in at basically no cost (once we account for selling Aurier) who are both premier league proven and fill our two biggest needs.

If coronoavirus hadn't happened they may not have been the two we signed/wanted, but given the financial reality, it's excellent business.

Now just get a backup/rotational striker and our three biggest needs have been addressed.

I think people are ignoring how awful we are at creating chances and moving the ball, especially if Ndombele is not the player he reportedly is.

If we are going with a MF of PEH, GLC and Winks with Moura starting as we are going to have major issues going forward and that would easily become a major need, if not the biggest need we have/had.
 
Its a starting 11 with almost no creativity or way to create offense outside of GLC and Kane/Son doing something amazing individually.

Just like last year it is a team that relies totally on GLC coming back to the back 4 to collect the ball and move it up to the front players, one of which you don't want to have the ball because of how poor they with the ball at their feet.

Its basically saying remember all those issues we had last year that resulted in us finishing 6th and looking bad doing it? Lets run the same basic team out there with marginal upgrades in two positions and the exact same issues with ball movement and creativity and hope we get a completely different outcome.

Moura, Winks and Davies as starters is embarrassing.

It's a bit premature to call Hojbjerg and Doherty "marginal upgrades" before they've kicked a ball for us. My feeling is that they will be huge upgrades.

As much as I love the cult of Sissoko it's crazy that such a limited player got so many minutes for a top 4 club. Hojberg will bring more control in possession and more tenacity off the ball and I think he will elevate those around him. Winks in particular stands to benefit.

I would also be wary of underestimating the impact of Doherty. You mention a lack of creativity in that XI but considering how much of the ball Jose's system gives the right back, having someone there who has been proven to make an impact in the final third (as opposed to Aurier) will increase chances created.

Of course the system relies on GLC, Kane and Son creating and scoring - they are attackers and that is their role. But add to that the box to box presence of Hojberg (See the second goal vs Ipswich) and the threat of Doherty, and with Lucas showing some good things towards the end of the season, I don't think there's a lack of creativity in that team.
 
Its a starting 11 with almost no creativity or way to create offense outside of GLC and Kane/Son doing something amazing individually.

Just like last year it is a team that relies totally on GLC coming back to the back 4 to collect the ball and move it up to the front players, one of which you don't want to have the ball because of how poor they with the ball at their feet.

Its basically saying remember all those issues we had last year that resulted in us finishing 6th and looking bad doing it? Lets run the same basic team out there with marginal upgrades in two positions and the exact same issues with ball movement and creativity and hope we get a completely different outcome.

Moura, Winks and Davies as starters is embarrassing.
You make some good points but..

Calling moura, winks and Davies as starters embarrassing is a bit much..

Embarrassing to who?
 
You make some good points but..

Calling moura, winks and Davies as starters embarrassing is a bit much..

Embarrassing to who?

To a squad that has top 4 aspirations.

To a squad that would be leaving a 60 million dollar player who supposedly has the skills that fit exactly what we need on the bench and not replacing him with a similar style player.

To a squad that just spent 20+ million on a much better player than Moura in Bergwijn on the bench.

With a team that has limited creativity as it is having 3 players that are woeful with the ball at their feet and terrible going forward is brutal. When there are better options on the bench (Bergwijn, Ndombele) is even worse.
 
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