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Manager Jose Mourinho

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Easy answer is Jose is the man Daniel has coveted for years and has gone and paid him twice as much money as our last manager while also paying said manager and his coaching staff heft severance pay which has only recently stopped. Add COVID to that and these are entirely different times.

Our most realistic hope is the EL for CL qualification. I think if we go out of that then Daniel has a tough choice. Made harder by the fact we were top of the league not that long ago.
Agree to an extent and would add to that managerial targets not being available until the summer is playing a big part. I think the EL is as much as a pipe dream as top 4 sadly. We can't keep getting as lucky as we have been in this round with the draw. You'd imagine we'd have to beat 3 or 4 very good sides to win it.
 
Agree to an extent and would add to that managerial targets not being available until the summer is playing a big part. I think the EL is as much as a pipe dream as top 4 sadly. We can't keep getting as lucky as we have been in this round with the draw. You'd imagine we'd have to beat 3 or 4 very good sides to win it.

Yep. I noticed the Dutch guy at Ajax is out of contract next summer. He could be a contender.

EL won’t be easy at all. But if we fail miserably at that then I think alongside a poor league position Jose’s job could be in real trouble.

Sure to pay off £30million plus in his contract is the biggest issue though. That has to play a part in all this.
 
I said this yesterday but it warrants repeating.....

At our current PPG rate we are on track for 59.5 points this season.

If that plays out our 2 worst seasons since 08/09 (2 points from 8 games) will be under Jose.

You can partially excuse last season, but not this.

No matter how bad you think this squad is, how can anyone in good faith think this is a squad that should be getting 59/60 points?!

It’s an abject failure.
 
The squad isn't the problem. I would still struggle to find a Spurs fan who at the beginning of the season would honestly tell me that our squad wasn't good enough to be competing near the top end of the table.

Leicester are sitting 2nd in the League and is their starting 11 let alone squad really better than ours?
 
I said this yesterday but it warrants repeating.....

At our current PPG rate we are on track for 59.5 points this season.

If that plays out our 2 worst seasons since 08/09 (2 points from 8 games) will be under Jose.

You can partially excuse last season, but not this.

No matter how bad you think this squad is, how can anyone in good faith think this is a squad that should be getting 59/60 points?!

It’s an abject failure.
It's like trying to talk to zombies

Bound to be met with any variation of

"It's the squad not Jose"
"Well he's our manager so I'll back him"

Brain dead behaviour
 
The squad isn't the problem. I would still struggle to find a Spurs fan who at the beginning of the season would honestly tell me that our squad wasn't good enough to be competing near the top end of the table.

Leicester are sitting 2nd in the League and is their starting 11 let alone squad really better than ours?
They have a much better defence to be fair. Evans, Soyuncu and Fofana better than all of our CB's probably. Ricardo and Justin would both start for us. Castagne a lot better than Davies, Doherty. Our goals conceded doesn't look too bad but mostly because our midfield spends so much time babysitting.
 
Depressingly though,why would either join us?
Leicester are looking good for top 4 and invest wisely. They have backed Rodgers with funds and have a good scouting team.
Nagelsman knows full well he can have pretty much any job he wants...so..why would he go to us?
If either came to us they'd be given very little in terms of transfer budget,due to us spending so much paying Jose's compo and big stadium interest repayments (where due to covid we haven't had the gate receipts and match day income to offset).

Any future manager will be told they can spend what they can recoup in transfer fees from selling the existing squad. Which is very little unless we cash in on Harry...
We are a massive draw for any Manager in the game. We aren't an elite club but we have elite facilities, we, therefore, provide the manager with the same if not better than he would get at an elite Club.

The added attraction, especially for a young aspiring coach (so a Poch, Naglesmann, Rose etc. etc....) is the pressure of expectation is nothing like that experienced at an elite Club. (I think that is a possible reason why so many of the elite have recently opted to go for a playing legend (Zidane, OGS, Pirlo, Flick, Pep at Barca, as PSG is a new Club maybe that's helped Poch their too) too, as it gives them time if they struggle initially.

Our expectations have never been to win the PL or CL, unlike the elite Clubs who do have this as their annual expectation. Yet off the pitch, everything is already set up as an elite club, all the marginal gains afforded to elite clubs we have and some. On the pitch we have one of the best strikers in the World with at least 3 other Worldclass players, in addition to a squad that have competed at the highest level in both domestic and European competition (some might be at the end of their cycle, best make this judgement when we have a manager that knows what he's doing before we throw out the bathwater and the baby) and we have a very strong academy with some top prospects being spoken.

There are few football Cubs more attractive to join than us and for a coach like Nagglesmann, who's turned down Real Madrid because he saw the jump too big and he wasn't ready we are fucking perfect.

Poch didn't have all these pieces in place when he was our manager. He came to Tottenham when Crystal Palace was closer in revenue terms to us, then we were to Woolwich!!! We have now overtaken then financially and caught up completly with Chavs. He didn't have a home stadium for 2yrs! When he did get into the new stadium, we still needed to acclimatise as it was for all intense and purpose not home.

Everything is there and in place, all the staff that were pulled off running the Club to focus on building the stadium are also now doing their jobs focussing on football.

I knew he'd be shit but genuinely given what he's inherited he's been far, far, far worse than even I can get my head around.

For the right manager though, they can enjoy everything that an elite club can offer (including salary) without the pressure of expectation.
 
It's like trying to talk to zombies

Bound to be met with any variation of

"It's the squad not Jose"
"Well he's our manager so I'll back him"

Brain dead behaviour
So true. And how the rhetoric has changed.....

- When Son and Kane were injured last year, “can’t judge him with these injuries and no backup striker”. He got one and there have been no significant injuries to the big 2 this season.

- “He needs transfers”. He got them. What is it, 9 now? No one said this squad wasn’t good enough for top 4 at the start of this season.

- At the start of the season “it’s all about results and a winning mentality with Jose, performances don’t matter”. They’re not all that seem to matter now it’s 12 points from 12 games.

- Now it’s “squad is awful, needs a complete overhaul”.

There will always be an excuse.....

The squad definitely has areas of weakness, I don’t think anyone denies that. But the managers job is to get the most out of the players at his disposal, and Jose has monumentally failed in that regard.

There is no logical argument to the contrary.
 
I don't think we'll get rid of him till the summer unfortunately. Even worse, he may make it more difficult to replace him with our preferred choices because of lack of european football. Not sure what's scarier, no European football or the Conference League :dierno:
 
Mourinho isn’t without fault but let’s be honest this is mostly on the players, then ENIC and our useless scouting system.

Sack him and who realistically would come in and elevate two thirds of these average players. The defence is awful aside from Reg and occasionally Aurier. Nothing will change regardless of who comes in unless a few hundred million is spent which isn’t happening.

Levy won’t sack him but things will get much worse unfortunately but I can see why we played ultra defensive tactics given the defence is shot and Lloris has started to gift goals again.
I can't see how you can come to the conclusion it's mostly on the players!?!?!

Are you buying it when the manager throws the players under the bus?

In my opinion; if the players aren't doing what the boss says he still has to carry the can because he must be failing to impress his ideas upon them. It's not as if this is some bunch of pre-madonna Pogba types. Agree that the players must carry some blame but Levy first, because this mess is years in the making, and Mourinho second for being a total dinosaur and massively failing to get the best from actually a reasonably good, if unbalanced, squad with some real quality mixed in. Our defenders are basically shit though I'll give you, which makes the decision to base the team philosophy around them utterly moronic.
 
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Easy answer is Jose is the man Daniel has coveted for years and has gone and paid him twice as much money as our last manager while also paying said manager and his coaching staff heft severance pay which has only recently stopped. Add COVID to that and these are entirely different times.

Our most realistic hope is the EL for CL qualification. I think if we go out of that then Daniel has a tough choice. Made harder by the fact we were top of the league not that long ago.
Levy should be sacked at the same time. He brought in an unpopular manager on way too much money. How is Jose on more than Poch, he had failed at Utd. We should have been paying him no more than £4m.

Levy overrates the value of things especially at Spurs. We could have had a stadium sponsor now for two years but he over values the price. Then there are numerous players who should have been sold like Sissoko who we got a £20m offer for after his first season.

The whole way Spurs are run is wrong. Levy has a good job on the property side but the football side he has failed to support Spurs properly. Levy took one role of the dice last summer on spending will not be surprised if Kane gets sold this summer and we go back to square 1.

Hopefully someone who is willing to invest money into the club is willing to buy us. Unlikely because of the valuation and the debt on our books. Eni
 
Good thing Levy doesn’t give a fuck about the whingers here. SAF wouldn’t have even happened had he been here. Sack sack sack. Sack Poch, Sack Mourinho, sack Levy FFS.

Calm down. Disagree you get ignored that’s it. I don’t give a fuck.
 
That'd the lowest points tally from a manager having a full season since Hoddle nearly 20 years ago....

Let that sink in.

I just can’t resist.


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Levy should be sacked at the same time. He brought in an unpopular manager on way too much money. How is Jose on more than Poch, he had failed at Utd. We should have been paying him no more than £4m.

Levy overrates the value of things especially at Spurs. We could have had a stadium sponsor now for two years but he over values the price. Then there are numerous players who should have been sold like Sissoko who we got a £20m offer for after his first season.

The whole way Spurs are run is wrong. Levy has a good job on the property side but the football side he has failed to support Spurs properly. Levy took one role of the dice last summer on spending will not be surprised if Kane gets sold this summer and we go back to square 1.

Hopefully someone who is willing to invest money into the club is willing to buy us. Unlikely because of the valuation and the debt on our books. Eni

Who is going to sack him??
 
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