So then we don’t need top players
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It is, but Leipzig missed a couple of their key players aswell. Not only this but I heard this excuse last season when we lost to Chelsea, then we shat the bed when we played them earlier this season with both Kane and Son on the pitch.
Don’t get me wrong, Jose should be doing a lot better here, but losing Son and Kane at the same time is nothing to be sniffed at.
Especially if someone thinks the back up is championship
If he won it with a club of our standing and finances then yes. But with PSG with their endless wealth, then no. It’s not comparable in the slightest. Besides, didn’t he lose to a team in the bottom three in the league the other week..
No, player excuse are invalid, cos it doesnt matter which players we have.
All we have to do is fire Mourinho, hire Nagelsmann and we will be winning the quadruple every year till Nagelsmann retires, all the while playing sexy football and throwing darts at Mourinho's poster on the wall in the pub.
You’re glossing over the same players were equally shit for 11 months in the PL under Poch. The CL final clouded both their heads and the heads of our fans
But anyway cool that you think Moura and Davies and Dier are all top 4 and we don’t need signings
#easyasthat
Yeah dare we not have signed Mbappe in January 2019 as back up
Poch was great, but there's a difference between managing Spurs and managing a team with Neymar and Mbappe. We had lots of class players but those two are potentially top 5 itw.
Neymar is always injured but PSG are a great side managed by a great manager. Poch is superior to Jose. Jose has always had money since leaving Porto. Even at Porto he had Deco to dictate style of play.
Jose at his best suited perfectly the time he was in. Football is more intricate now and a well coached team of mostly average players (like Brighton) can play Jose's teams off the park.
I don't know what the first half of your post is about. I haven't engaged with you. But if you want to know, my opinion is that I don't like Jose as our manager because his "style" is terrible to watch and he has not made us better (I think he making us worse in fact). Additionally, I don't like him as a human being. I think he is a bully and a nasty piece of work.That's it? That's all you have? A typo and an insult?
What, no reasoned response with an actual opinion of your own to put forward? Disappointing.
Oh yeah, I forgot that some people resort to insults when they don't have a genuine point of view...or maybe they're just scared of revealing their point of view - you know, in case it's just nonsense.
Here are a few simple questions for you, and don't worry if they seem a bit scary....just be honest;
- Did you 'fawn' over Poch, or did you just 'support' him while he was here?
- Do you dislike all fans who support their club's manager, or just Spurs fans who do it?
- If my support of Jose is so wrong, can you enlighten me about why it's wrong?
It will be interesting to see whether you can provide an intelligent answer to any of the above questions without resorting to insults.
Let's see what you and your cronies can do!
I have said this before but it can be summed up like this: Once the results drop, the club is left with appalling football, damaged players, and a tosser in charge.
Now on to your "scary" questions, which seem irrelevant but you put some effort into them:
I did fawn over Poch for long periods because I was proud that he was our manager. Towards the end I wanted him gone. I probably still do fawn over him, he is a cuddly teddy bear after all.
I never said I disliked any fans.
I don't think I said your support for Jose is wrong. There are Jose fanboys on here, so supporting Jose above spurs would be wrong. If that isn't you, fine. But as to why I want him gone, it is explained above.
Unfortunately, I don't have any cronies but I am flattered by that remark.
Jose is like Trump it is all attitude and front, then when things do not go their way it is throw your toys out of your buggy time. Jose is nothing new he is a Bobby Robson Lite who has the privilege of good looks and a bit of charisma. He will never win the PL or CL again. His Tactics are focused totally on what the other team does. His two champions league winning runs cannot have been any more fortunate and at Inter he still had a world class side to do it. It was a good achievement but not as good as some people say it was.
Poch worked miracles when we got to the champions league final. We were without our talisman for a number of games but he still did it on the backs of some very good players.
No manager can automatically work miracles and win stuff with a poor squad but Jose has always had great teams some of the best in the world. He is still the highest spending manager of all time and has failed to build a legacy anywhere he has been.
Poch worked miracles when we got to the champions league final. We were without our talisman for a number of games but he still did it on the backs of some very good players.
No manager can automatically work miracles and win stuff with a poor squad but Jose has always had great teams some of the best in the world. He is still the highest spending manager of all time and has failed to build a legacy anywhere he has been.
Not really. PSG have been serial bottlers in the CL for years, and that’s been with Mbappe and Co. If Pochettino wins the CL with PSG, it would be a remarkable achievement and it would definitely speak volumes about our club and why he couldn’t bring success here. We have had 2 world class players in Son and Kane and still do. You have to ask yourself, why we continue to not win trophies every season. Maybe Mourinho might change that with the league cup and Europa ( highly doubt it) but we will find out I guess
We all know why he could not bring success to Spurs. The simple fact is Levy has failed to back him. Poch worked miracles.
Levy has set us back 5-10 years and when Kane and Son look to leave this Summer. Levy will be responsible.
Jose needs to be bank rolled hundreds of millions to bring success. It is an absolute embarrassment that Levy brought him in.
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Wasn't that when we were in a massive losing rut, and Mourinho was actually going into games admitting defeat before kick off.
He should never have survived that.
PSG have such a far superior squad than we have ever had and Poch winning the CL would be a great achievement but by no means remarkable.
You can argue Kane is in the Neymar/Mbappe bracket but they are different types of players so not sure it's a fair comparison. Son is nowhere near those two.
PSG lost the final to Bayern last season, they are not far away.
PSG are really only competing with Bayern and probably City for that honour this season.
Ergo, Poch winning it with them says absolutely nothing about Spurs.
OK...it's hard not to press the buzzer when you know the answer! (and I'm bored at work)
1, The first part of my post relates to you labelling me as one of Jose's 'fawning fans"....you are welcome to your opinion, but labelling fans without even engaging with them may just provoke a response....imagine if you walked up to someone in the street and labelled them like that, I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't be walking away without a 'comment' or two!
2, I get it, you want Jose sacked and you think that he is a 'tosser' too apparently. Just one thing though....if you've never met Jose, nor spent any meaningful time in his company, how do you know he is a tosser, and bully, and a nasty piece of work? Is that an opinion based on anything other than hearsay or conjecture? That's a rhetorical question by the way.
3, The question was actually whether you disliked 'fans who support their manager, or just Spurs fans who support their manager'. In other words, what is so wrong with supporting the manager and why is it regarded as 'fawning' if you do? Well dodged though!
4, Also, well done for spectacularly avoiding the main point of my post...I know, it's hard to see through all of that pro-Jose red mist right? Here, I'll give you another chance....
If you recognise that some of our players are not good enough (see numerous individual errors this season for proof), how can that be all down to our current manager when many of these players were not even signed or scouted by him?
Or, if you don't like the way we are playing right now (not many of us do btw), then how much of that is down to the manager/tactics and how much is down to having sub-standard playing staff in the first 11?
Maybe, but didn’t help losing both players really
Of course not, but it was Jose doing what Jose does, putting himself first, we seen the same at Chelsea and United.