Your agenda is clear but Jose will be here next season
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He has bags of experience and has won lots of trophies granted. However imagine for a minute that you didn’t already know that then what is it you think Jose has brought to this club cos I am not sure I can see it at the moment?
Intrigued as to what he brings. Could you elaborate?
Sadly so will his fanboys...I know you aren't one, but you seem totally blinded to his failings hoping that 2010 Jose somehow comes back from the grave.
He's great if you have n Amazon documentary on the go...apparently.
Matspur beat me to it, I was going to say experience, won trophies, he's clearly a big name manager but unfortunately the tactical side of the game has completely gone.
Oh look, another expert on football tactics.
Yesterday was very dispiriting but didn't particularly surprise me. Useful to do a comparison of where ourselves at Woolwich are at.
The awful quality and style of football once Jose is in charge is pretty much a given, as it is that young talent won't get a crack at it. What you're banking on with Jose is all the bullshit and bluster about his big game mentality, guaranteed success and instant trophies. There was a certain sense of desperation to end the 12 year (now 13 year) rot, so Levy fell for it. We're not winning League or European Cup anytime soon, even if the Lord God Almighty working all his miracles was in charge, so its essentially a target of the FA Cup and League Cup.
Woolwich appointed Arteta at more or less the same time, that we did Mourinho. First managerial job for Arteta and within a few months they win the FA Cup beating Man City in a semi final and Chavs in a final. They beat runaway champions Liverpool last season (one of only 3 sides to so), beat Man U at home lost season and this season have won at Old Trafford (against 11 men), beaten Chavs and ourselves at home and came from behind to win at 3rd placed Leicester a few weeks ago. A managerial novice winning trophies and big games with an average enough team. You'd swear from all the spin that Mourinho was the only man alive that could deliver us a League Cup or FA Cup.
Woolwich under Arteta may well end up going nowhere, but there is a sense of planning, direction and looking to the future about it and he's giving young fellow like Tierney, Smith-Rowe, Sakya and Odergaard a crack at it. Even the fucking Chavs are trusting young home grown players like Mount, Hudson-Odoi, Gilmour, Abraham and Reece James and giving them a go.
No chance for developing young talent with us. Our whole team revolves around two senior players - Kane and Son, both 28 and 29 (or thereabouts). The bottom line is that having won nothing in their careers, they are far too big to be hanging around a mid table club any longer, a club that has no sense of direction, forward planning and is going nowhere. No wonder there's such utter doom and gloom and foreboding around the club and more of a positive vibe about Woolwich, even if we are still 3 places ahead of them in the league.
The awful quality and style of football once Jose is in charge is pretty much a given, as it is that young talent won't get a crack at it. What you're banking on with Jose is all the bullshit and bluster about his big game mentality, guaranteed success and instant trophies. There was a certain sense of desperation to end the 12 year (now 13 year) rot, so Levy fell for it. We're not winning League or European Cup anytime soon, even if the Lord God Almighty working all his miracles was in charge, so its essentially a target of the FA Cup and League Cup.
Woolwich appointed Arteta at more or less the same time, that we did Mourinho. First managerial job for Arteta and within a few months they win the FA Cup beating Man City in a semi final and Chavs in a final. They beat runaway champions Liverpool last season (one of only 3 sides to so), beat Man U at home lost season and this season have won at Old Trafford (against 11 men), beaten Chavs and ourselves at home and came from behind to win at 3rd placed Leicester a few weeks ago. A managerial novice winning trophies and big games with an average enough team. You'd swear from all the spin that Mourinho was the only man alive that could deliver us a League Cup or FA Cup.
Woolwich under Arteta may well end up going nowhere, but there is a sense of planning, direction and looking to the future about it and he's giving young fellow like Tierney, Smith-Rowe, Sakya and Odergaard a crack at it. Even the fucking Chavs are trusting young home grown players like Mount, Hudson-Odoi, Gilmour, Abraham and Reece James and giving them a go.
No chance for developing young talent with us. Our whole team revolves around two senior players - Kane and Son, both 28 and 29 (or thereabouts). The bottom line is that having won nothing in their careers, they are far too big to be hanging around a mid table club any longer, a club that has no sense of direction, forward planning and is going nowhere. No wonder there's such utter doom and gloom and foreboding around the club and more of a positive vibe about Woolwich, even if we are still 3 places ahead of them in the league.
Anyone else just recovered?
The highs of lamela, then the lows of defence..
Got outplayed all over the park, wasnt a peno tho! And should of maybe even got a point out of the game near the end!
You cant really blame the defence today either, for however bad doherty looks atm, hes got no support from bale for a player that used to be a left back hes one lazy player, the half shocked " huh what me im off? " when he got subbed summed him up tbh..
Against the big teams hes missing.
You could hear jose shouting these players to push up and play the ball, yet Woolwich pinned them back nearly 70 mins! Seeing toby and dav pass from side to side finding no room or support from players was like a chalk on a blackboard!
Its always 1 step forward 2 steps back for spurs!
The highs of lamela, then the lows of defence..
Got outplayed all over the park, wasnt a peno tho! And should of maybe even got a point out of the game near the end!
You cant really blame the defence today either, for however bad doherty looks atm, hes got no support from bale for a player that used to be a left back hes one lazy player, the half shocked " huh what me im off? " when he got subbed summed him up tbh..
Against the big teams hes missing.
You could hear jose shouting these players to push up and play the ball, yet Woolwich pinned them back nearly 70 mins! Seeing toby and dav pass from side to side finding no room or support from players was like a chalk on a blackboard!
Its always 1 step forward 2 steps back for spurs!
Well what do you think he has brought to us then? Is it great football, great tactics, great results, first rate man management?
The tactics are wrong, so I'm sure someone will tell us all the right tactics.
Your there comparing arteta to Mourinho, praising arteta, when Woolwich have been bottom half most the season and are out of all the cups bar the europa league which they have been pretty lucky to stay in..
Spurs have beaten man city twice, united 6-1 and knocked Chelsea out the cup? So whats your point on those?
Just because spurs lost to Woolwich doesnt mean arteta is doing better lol
If spurs were having Woolwich's season theres no way you would be praising arteta so stop being a whiney douche..
No I’m not blinded by his failings
I’m painfully aware of them
I’m just hoping that he can turn it around for all our sakes
I am aware of his record though and it didn’t end in 2010
He did well at Utd despite it not going well!
I just feel that to sack him now would be premature and if we’re in a similar position at this time next season then yes get rid at the end of it
I think that’s what Levy will do
A few about today mate
Woolwich build from the back, we press with Kane.
We try to build from the back, they press with the whole team.
Then we shit the bed and lump it forward. Not only that but because we’re overrun in midfield, our attacking players have to track back deeper and deeper, leaving Kane with absolutely no support as a targetman and therefore our only counter-attacking pattern being brough to 0.
How some people refuse to acknowledge how fucking poor tactically we are when all the evidence is there to see is baffling.
You think we shouldn't talk about the manager of the club?
It’s a complete mess
Of course the manager has more failings than our squad does (which is trying to compete with teams who have spent more and pay more wages).
Remember he wanted a striker and got Bergwijn? What a bargain, great deal.
Remember he wanted a striker and got Bergwijn? What a bargain, great deal.
Oh wow, a tactical analysis from an anonymous sports scientist on YT, Instagram, Twitter and Patreon....we best sack Jose now.