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Management In search of Mourinho's successor.

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Cravenspurs said:
Find it funny people are now saying Iheanacho is a talent after slating him year after year for being a City reject.

I also think we put far too much in this idea of being an elite manager.

A select few managers have trophy rooms and most of them, managed elite clubs that could outspend. It's all about timing, just like players careers.

Alan Shearer must not be an elite forward since he never won anything.
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What would most people have said about Hans Flick before he was appointed Bayern manager?

The best thing he had done was be an assistant after a very unimpressive run at lower leagues as a manager.

This doesn't mean that anyone without a history will be great, but some of the standards that people have for a new manager seem to be almost unattainable. At this point we would be looking at Pep and Klopp and hearing about how one is crap as he is only a chequebook manager and the other sucks because his team had a bad year with injuries.

I don't think there is anyone who could meet some people's standards.
 
I never wanted jose - I can understand why levy did - and a massive reason for that is that, to me, he is a Chelsea cunt. Now I’m hearing sarri and even conte. Seriously fuck that.
Let’s get our own plan.
 
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Igula said:
What would most people have said about Hans Flick before he was appointed Bayern manager?

The best thing he had done was be an assistant after a very unimpressive run at lower leagues as a manager.

This doesn't mean that anyone without a history will be great, but some of the standards that people have for a new manager seem to be almost unattainable. At this point we would be looking at Pep and Klopp and hearing about how one is crap as he is only a chequebook manager and the other sucks because his team had a bad year with injuries.

I don't think there is anyone who could meet some people's standards.
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Personally, the rinse and repeat managers seem to be having a harder go at life right now.

Where is Jose? Stinking it up here.

Ancelloti? I would say he hasn't been elite at Everton.

Benitez? Is he even working?

Allegri? Currently out of work and hasn't won the big one.

A new guard is coming through and we should take a chance on one of them, not these baby boomers.
 
Cravenspurs said:
We don't get to see him with his players, but the way he controls emotion on the sideline and works with the press is great IMO.

You keep the drama/emotion in house. Dude knows the theories behind what makes us humans tick, that can only be beneficial.

It's a new era, with gen z kids coming into the ranks. Jose's old way of dragging you through the mud to make you tougher is obsolete.

Change is hard for some of these baby boomers on this board.
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Managers have less of an impact than many of us give them credit for. Where would Klopp be without the recruitment team he has behind him at Liverpool? He's on record as saying he didn't want Salah for example. Similarly Rogers is benefitting from some very savvy transfer dealings at Leicester.

Improving our recruitment / scouting is the most important thing. Buy good players and we'll be in good shape, even if we pick a so-so manager.
 
Belgrano said:
Managers have less of an impact than many of us give them credit for. Where would Klopp be without the recruitment team he has behind him at Liverpool? He's on record as saying he didn't want Salah for example. Similarly Rogers is benefitting from some very savvy transfer dealings at Leicester.

Improving our recruitment / scouting is the most important thing. Buy good players and we'll be in good shape, even if we pick a so-so manager.
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Not sure about that look at Redknapp with Ramos’s squad or Poch with AVB/Sherwood’s squad it’s night and day the quality of football.

Obviously scouting and recruiting is a huge part but watching us play this season we look the least coached team in the prem.
 
Belgrano said:
Managers have less of an impact than many of us give them credit for. Where would Klopp be without the recruitment team he has behind him at Liverpool? He's on record as saying he didn't want Salah for example. Similarly Rogers is benefitting from some very savvy transfer dealings at Leicester.

Improving our recruitment / scouting is the most important thing. Buy good players and we'll be in good shape, even if we pick a so-so manager.
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Although transfers are important no doubt, I look at some managers like Potter and Bielsa and think perhaps managers’ tactics are sometimes just as important, those two teams play great football and they don’t possess great players.
 
I just want attacking, free-flowing, vibrant football back.

We aren't getting Poch back anytime soon. He'll be at PSG for a couple of years, then probably end up at Bayern or Man City.

Rogers, Potter, ten Hag, Kovac would all be good appointments, and are more of a project type manager, who we can get behind. I like the idea of Parker as well, but I think he'll be the manager of our next manager.
 
Tomo said:
Not sure about that look at Redknapp with Ramos’s squad or Poch with AVB/Sherwood’s squad it’s night and day the quality of football.

Obviously scouting and recruiting is a huge part but watching us play this season we look the least coached team in the prem.
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Fair enough. They are both important, and I think at the very least we can expect a new coach to play more attractive football. But look at Woolwich and the money they wasted on the likes of Ozil, Auba, Willian, Partey. I think their poor player recruitment is a bigger reason for their decline than their managers' performance.
 
harrymonk said:
If we get potter we may aswell sign a ten year kit manufacturing deal with le coq sportif and sell the stadium
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There's a lot of metrics that show Brighton, with better strikers who scored the many chances they create, would be a top 6 team, that's without having any really top class players. His teams play entertaining football and players speak very highly of him. He'd be an appointment based on an in depth assessment of his performance as a manager with the tools he has available, not on his past reputation.

We just hired a big name manager based on what he did when younger and ignored the fact that had been sacked from his previous two jobs with his expensively assembled teams in mid table and half his players hating his guts, so repeating that mistake would be very foolish.
 
Belgrano said:
Fair enough. They are both important, and I think at the very least we can expect a new coach to play more attractive football. But look at Woolwich and the money they wasted on the likes of Ozil, Auba, Willian, Partey. I think their poor player recruitment is a bigger reason for their decline than their managers' performance.
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Both are important factors. Some managers can get players dancing to a different tune. But even they need to be backed up with proper scouting for when those players move on and need to be replaced.

Potter has a recruitment analyst as part of his team, Kyle Macaulay, who helps him make sure that the players they have coming in fit his profile. He's worked with him at Östersund, Swansea and Brighton.
 
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