Oh Will.... only you can gracefully sneak in some commie propaganda in this discussion.
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Like cutting off your nose to spite your face. A WC without those players and the laggard clubs wouldn't have the appeal.
Heard on the radio that Sky and BT could cancel their contracts and payments to the PL if the clubs are kicked out.
I think this is really just posturing by the big clubs, that will ultimately fail in formation of ESL but give them bigger slice of CL revenue.
It will fail due to sanctions on players. Players that have earned enough money to last them and their heirs for life will not be prepared to give up international football, and will claim frustration of contracts by clubs, and possibly even be able to walk for nothing.
Telling that players, FIFPRO and PFA have not spoken, they hold the ultimate power in this.
It will fail due to sanctions on players. Players that have earned enough money to last them and their heirs for life will not be prepared to give up international football, and will claim frustration of contracts by clubs, and possibly even be able to walk for nothing.
Telling that players, FIFPRO and PFA have not spoken, they hold the ultimate power in this.
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Big six got the rest of the league by the balls. If this ends up a replacement for the CL then I'm going to be ok with it.
Tuesday - Sissoko signs a new 5-year deal.
Oh yeah I can see that happening therefore they won't get kicked out! Shit...I mean we...
The Danish member of the UEFA exec committee expects all the breakaways to be booted from European competitions as of this friday
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Smells like Fuedalism to me.
Of course you are because you're not a real fan, just some Yank hipster who got into 'soccer' as you thought it was cool.
It's the same reason why I'm into the NFL.
I'm not a hipster.Of course you are because you're not a real fan, just some Yank hipster who got into 'soccer' as you thought it was cool.
It's the same reason why I'm into the NFL.
Sure. They need to free up money to invest into coverage for ESL.
Neeeeeever gonna happen. They're all worth too much to the TV companies and therefore the rights and therefore the leagues
Poch wins the CL!
D-C was always just a resetting of the game and starting fresh. It took centuries of tribes killing, merging, wrestling power away, accumulating more and more land before the order began to stabilize and homogenized around a handful of global superpowers. The liberty revolutions just started a new game, and its quickly reaching a conclusion.
Hopefully Musk buys Spurs and we can be the first football club off this fucked planet.
It sounds like it should work like that doesn't it, however if you look at the championships by team in the NFL in the years since the premier league started (below) - it is 16 different teams - exactly 50% of the entire league. Almost makes the championship look uncompetitive.
Premier league? 7 Champions. Most wins is United with 13, over double what New England have won.
The thing is that the NFL, NBA, AFL and other similar model leagues (relegation concept is surprisingly rare in sports leagues outside of football - not just in America) address the risks upfront by trying to ensure equality for example through CBA in the NBA which redistributes overspends against the salary cap. Meanwhile the rules ensure teams don't underpay players. This ensures a level plainfield and by eliminating the need for transfer fees it means there's no possibility of an Abramovich or Citeh, again maintaining clarity.
The lack of any such system in football is why transfer fees exist. The threat of relegation means teams can't just "rebuild". In US sports sometimes if teams see no route to win they trade their best assets and go into a 4-5 year rebuild (Knicks just coming good after a decade long one now), acquiring draft picks for their best players on 4 year rookie contracts to start over. In football you couldn't do that due to relegation threat - so teams are forced to spend 100-200mil to finish 16th. It's ridiculous and less competitive than the non-football systems as shown in the number of champions in the time period. This is because the financial requirement for survival in current European football models is so high that anything above and beyond that - to even think about competing for titles - is utterly prohibitive. Hence why barely any teams have ever won it.
Spain is even worse. Juve have won 9 in a row. France and Germany usually a one horse race.
The data just doesn't support what you're saying, but I agree that inuitively the football "grass roots" model sounds better the truth is in practice it's way less competitive.
I'm open minded to change.
Edit: Also added the NBA, won by 11 different teams - 50% more than the premier league in same period. Most wins by Lakers (still half as many as United have). I get a lot of the concerns about super league, but data from sports all around the world over many years proves the hypothesis that relegation = competitive is false. Therefore, arguments against the super league should take a new angle cos trust me, the big boys have their spreadsheets ready!
| Team | Championships |
| New England | 6 |
| Dallas | 3 |
| Denver | 3 |
| Baltimore | 2 |
| Green Bay | 2 |
| New York | 2 |
| Pittsburgh | 2 |
| Tampa Bay | 2 |
| Indianapolis | 1 |
| Kansas City | 1 |
| New Orleans | 1 |
| Philadelphia | 1 |
| San Francisco | 1 |
| Seattle | 1 |
| St Louis | 1 |
| Washington | 1 |
NBA:
| Team | Championships |
| Los Angeles | 6 |
| Chicago | 5 |
| San Antonio | 5 |
| Golden State | 3 |
| Miami | 3 |
| Houston | 2 |
| Boston | 1 |
| Cleveland | 1 |
| Dallas | 1 |
| Detroit | 1 |
| Toronto | 1 |
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Not going to be worth anything once the super league happens.. sources have said these teams will play weakened teams in the premier league and concentrate fully on the super league!