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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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But if you don't want to sell because you value what Kane brings then you do hold the cards and you can set the price as you wish.
...if you are prepared to deal with the consequences of not selling. Anyone can be irrational if they'd like. But if the consequences are less money, wasted season, shit player performance, devalued asset, reluctant agents/players, etc etc etc would you be running through the streets singing glory glory because we kept Kane? Pyrrhic victories are labelled as such for a reason.
City want Kane, Kane wants City but Spurs don't want to sell so will set the transfer fee higher than City value him.
Kane is possibly playing silly buggers as he's not happy with the club's stance.
Spurs won't sell him this summer for anything less than they value him as they're not looking to sell and he can't walk away for 3 years.
You say this like it's something to which we should aspire. What is to be gained? Where is your consideration of the time-value of money or opportunity cost? If we take less than we desire where is your consideration of the current market in that and how much that money NOW can do for us?
If City aren't willing to pay what Spurs want then he stays (as Spurs want him to) and we go through it all again next year when his price will come down a bit. You might not like the situation but that's it pretty much in a nutshell as far as I can see. Kane will have the hump for a week or two and then get on with it as Modric did because that's his job.
Yup, just like Eriksen did. Can't wait for that groundhog day to resurface. And if I remember correctly Luka didn't play the first few games that season. I remember a trip to OT with Harry saying his head wasn't right...and most fans not really appreciating how good he was anyway and preferring the waddling stylings of VDV.
Exceptions exist everywhere but they don't disprove the rules. There was just a Guardian article from a survivor of a plane crash in the Colombian mountains. I think there were 150ish dead and she and her father were 2 of 4 survivors. Would you like to take your chances with that exception as well?
 
...if you are prepared to deal with the consequences of not selling. Anyone can be irrational if they'd like. But if the consequences are less money, wasted season, shit player performance, devalued asset, reluctant agents/players, etc etc etc would you be running through the streets singing glory glory because we kept Kane? Pyrrhic victories are labelled as such for a reason.

You say this like it's something to which we should aspire. What is to be gained? Where is your consideration of the time-value of money or opportunity cost? If we take less than we desire where is your consideration of the current market in that and how much that money NOW can do for us?

Yup, just like Eriksen did. Can't wait for that groundhog day to resurface. And if I remember correctly Luka didn't play the first few games that season. I remember a trip to OT with Harry saying his head wasn't right...and most fans not really appreciating how good he was anyway and preferring the waddling stylings of VDV.

Exceptions exist everywhere but they don't disprove the rules. There was just a Guardian article from a survivor of a plane crash in the Colombian mountains. I think there were 150ish dead and she and her father were 2 of 4 survivors. Would you like to take your chances with that exception as well?

So, to boil all this down... if we don't sell Kane because City don't offer enough money, you think he will play badly for us?

Since 2014/15 season, every time Kane has made 30 league appearances, he has scored 20+ goals. He is coming off a season where he top scored in the league, got the most assists. There's a World Cup with England on the horizon and he's chasing Shearer's record. He has all the motivation in the world, from a purely selfish perspective, to play to his level and bang in 20+ goals in the league and stay fit and in form to go in to the World Cup. And we'd still get £100m for him next summer, with 2 years left to run on his deal.

I dunno about Columbian aeroplanes, but if City don't come in with silly money then I'd take another year of Harry playing and getting us 20+ league goals.
 
we cannot let him leave for whatever smaller amount city offer would take a chance and keep him even if he is browned off players under contract cannot just be allowed to leg it because they want to sorry harry .
 
So, to boil all this down... if we don't sell Kane because City don't offer enough money, you think he will play badly for us?

I don't think Harry would play "badly," exactly. His skill level is too high for him to turn into Janssen.

BUT I do expect we would get more frustrated play (running slow, predictable arcs instead of pressing aggressively, looking at the sky when he doesn't get through-balls delivered, etc.), fans would get restless and increasingly dismayed by the rumors and endless speculation, pundits will never focus on anything else, and it will be one giant distraction when we so desperately need to turn the page from the disastrous Mourinho tenure and put Nuno in the best position to build something positive.

I want no part of that.
 
So, to boil all this down... if we don't sell Kane because City don't offer enough money, you think he will play badly for us?

Since 2014/15 season, every time Kane has made 30 league appearances, he has scored 20+ goals. He is coming off a season where he top scored in the league, got the most assists. There's a World Cup with England on the horizon and he's chasing Shearer's record. He has all the motivation in the world, from a purely selfish perspective, to play to his level and bang in 20+ goals in the league and stay fit and in form to go in to the World Cup. And we'd still get £100m for him next summer, with 2 years left to run on his deal.

I dunno about Columbian aeroplanes, but if City don't come in with silly money then I'd take another year of Harry playing and getting us 20+ league goals.

I don't think there is much question about whether he will work hard to be in shape or try when on the pitch. However, when his ankles are sore in the past he may have pushed through it and played, now will he sit out instead?

If we want him to play across multiple competitions is he as likely to be willing to do that as he was in the past? Does he take an extra week to recover when in the past he would come back as soon as he could.

I also think there is an undeniable effect on the team when they know that the top player wants out.

Those are the things I would be more worried about than him pouting and not putting in effort. I don't think him putting his health and his future health higher up the list of priorities than he did in the past is being unprofessional or out of the realm of possibilities.
 
So, to boil all this down... if we don't sell Kane because City don't offer enough money, you think he will play badly for us?
I think there is a fair probability that a person that feels betrayed by another is less likely to break their backs in regards to any goals of the aforementioned perfidious bastard. Simple human nature.

Since 2014/15 season, every time Kane has made 30 league appearances, he has scored 20+ goals. He is coming off a season where he top scored in the league, got the most assists. There's a World Cup with England on the horizon and he's chasing Shearer's record. He has all the motivation in the world, from a purely selfish perspective, to play to his level and bang in 20+ goals in the league and stay fit and in form to go in to the World Cup. And we'd still get £100m for him next summer, with 2 years left to run on his deal.
Yes, all the motivation to sit at the D and seflishly go for his own accomplishments. Awesome, sign me up for 25 of these players! What a team we would be.

I dunno about Columbian aeroplanes, but if City don't come in with silly money then I'd take another year of Harry playing and getting us 20+ league goals.
To what end? If Harry gets 20 league goals where does that put us in your estimation? And while you're at it let me know how his 20+ goals and 14 assists did for us this season past. These are important things to consider.
 
I hate that he's put us back into the spotlight, I can't turn on/listen to any sports outlet without hearing negative shit about the club I love because of this and I resent him for that.
 
So. How come City have not gone public with a £150m offer ? Because they are aiming to do a deal @ much less. If they are doing a deal at much less, which way it that to our advantage ? Even Ings would be £50m so what do we gain out of this ? The conclusion has to be that City see Spurs as financially weak and easy pickings, they have not gone anywhere else to get the striker they need so something is convincing them they can take Kane. Let’s be honest they could get Calvert Lewin in at 1/3 of the money he would score goals and he would win the title. So what’s the real reality with this ? Kane’s contract demands huge compensation for THFC. So pay it or fuck off. But the fact is they are hanging around like flies to shit for some reason and that reason seems ominous to me. Are we actually totally skint in football terms and city know it. Anything under £150m now makes no sense to Tottenham unless we really need to sell. Our window so far certainly looks weak and does not smack of investment. Golli the Goalie is nothing to convince me we are not looking at 12-8th next season.
 
...if you are prepared to deal with the consequences of not selling. Anyone can be irrational if they'd like. But if the consequences are less money, wasted season, shit player performance, devalued asset, reluctant agents/players, etc etc etc would you be running through the streets singing glory glory because we kept Kane? Pyrrhic victories are labelled as such for a reason.

You say this like it's something to which we should aspire. What is to be gained? Where is your consideration of the time-value of money or opportunity cost? If we take less than we desire where is your consideration of the current market in that and how much that money NOW can do for us?

Yup, just like Eriksen did. Can't wait for that groundhog day to resurface. And if I remember correctly Luka didn't play the first few games that season. I remember a trip to OT with Harry saying his head wasn't right...and most fans not really appreciating how good he was anyway and preferring the waddling stylings of VDV.

Exceptions exist everywhere but they don't disprove the rules. There was just a Guardian article from a survivor of a plane crash in the Colombian mountains. I think there were 150ish dead and she and her father were 2 of 4 survivors. Would you like to take your chances with that exception as well?
Kane clearly wants to go. If city have bid 100m it would be very risky to turn it down & keep an unhappy Harry. Unless we wanted to go for the title & made acquisitions to match that ambition. We clearly are happy with scraping top 4 so he should go.
Would you rather 100m or a few realistic players they might throw in as part payment? Jesus, ake spring to mind. Both ok but not great in my view. 7 out of 10 players. But they would probably improve us when you consider the state of our squad :kanehand:

Obviously if we can get much more than do that!
 
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I don't think Harry would play "badly," exactly. His skill level is too high for him to turn into Janssen.

BUT I do expect we would get more frustrated play (running slow, predictable arcs instead of pressing aggressively, looking at the sky when he doesn't get through-balls delivered, etc.), fans would get restless and increasingly dismayed by the rumors and endless speculation, pundits will never focus on anything else, and it will be one giant distraction when we so desperately need to turn the page from the disastrous Mourinho tenure and put Nuno in the best position to build something positive.

I want no part of that.
Me either. We need to get Vlahovic and Martinez. And move on. Not hamstring the coach with a toxic dressing room.
 
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