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Transfers Summer 2021 - Transfer Thread

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Chelsea making sure they sort their weakness out before the season, hence why they are so successful and win trophies unlike us. We have the same shit defence starting V city and still no resolution to this Harry Kane shambles. Romero is great but it’s no good if we are partnering him with donkeys like Sanchez and Dier. When do we ever learn?

Stop comparing us to the Chavs. They spend and spend we don't and don't.
 
I'll not be holding my breath...


Saracens have set the benchmark in how to circumvent the salary cap, albeit in rugby.
Sign all the top players, busting all the salary cap rules by paying extras in investments, win everything available for 5yrs, get a slap on the wrist and enforced relegation after investigations prove all the wrongdoing and rule breaking, change nothing and get promoted again. Repeat.
 
If we sell Kane it's going to be a really hard and long season, he is our only brilliant finisher, think of the Ass pre season game, if Kane was playing it would be 3 or 4 nil

If we buy Vlahovic & Pau Torres, the striker may be good in the future but if we spend big money on Torres then we have 100% wasted the Kane money
 
Although I am not very sure about this call of yours I will ask you if you can see any other possible reason why RL will be of use to Chelsea? Have you considered how his holdup play will free Werner in behind and give more space for Havertz to create in front of him? There are other tactical considerations for a striker besides how many goals he scores...like the fact that his bullying of any CB in the PL (and he will bully any and every CB in the PL) will afford more space and time for other players.
I like to take the piss out of Werner, but his main strength is the quality of runs he makes off the ball, which frees up space for other players, which was demonstrated perfectly in the Havertz goal in the CL Final. Not sure Lukaku would benefit a lot from those runs. Also, Tuchel doesn't have a good record managing target men, apart from his time at BVB when he made Aubameyang a star (although that was in a compeletely different system to what he plays now at Chelsea).
As you said, Lukaku will be extremely good when it comes to holding up play, but when it comes to having space and finishing, I'm not so sure. If he struggled at Olimpico against Roma and Smalling last year, what chance does he have against defences like Liverpool's, City's, United's or even ours if we manage to get Torres or Laporte?
 
You know what my worry is? Sell Kane near deadline day and we are prancing around trying to find his replacement and if it fails, we sign fucking Braithewaite from Barca. How would people honestly feel if this happened ? The club give the “we tried” scenario and we end up just using Son as our “striker”
 
You know what my worry is? Sell Kane near deadline day and we are prancing around trying to find his replacement and if it fails, we sign fucking Braithewaite from Barca. How would people honestly feel if this happened ? The club give the “we tried” scenario and we end up just using Son as our “striker”
Agree. We have to buy at least one of Vlahovic or Martinez before we sell Kane. Absolute necessity, no more last minute desperation signings.
 
Nike pay the club to make their shirt exclusively and Nike take almost all the profit from every one sold. It's barely pennies in the pound to the club.
We get a £30m sum over 5 years and Nike make and sell the kits and set the price. Hence why Brighton, a much smaller club with a small deal, have cheaper Nike shirts.
Nearly correct. Parents used to own a sports shop so this is how it works. Nike pay club a hefty fee to do the shirts. Back in the days where adults shirts were c.£40 Nike would sell the club and all other retailers the shirts for c.£23.

So the club would make an uplift and profit the same as any other retailer plus the hefty annual fee. Nike would more often than not break even/lose on the deal because they have made the shirts at say the have to recoup the cost paid to the club. They would also have to pay volume bonuses to the club. So Nike just get exposure out of the deal, working on the premise that if you have a Nike football shirt you will want Nike trainers etc.

Some smaller clubs have alternate arrangements. They will approach a manufacturer and simply say we will pay for you to make our kit I.e in the old days of £40 shirt will pay Nike £7 per shirt. Nike make a profit like any other wholesale type arrangement but the club gets more for each and every shirt sale (filling the gap of a one off annual lump sum).

So anything that ever says shirt sales will pay for a player (especially when including image rights) is absolute bobbins
 
Nike pay the club to make their shirt exclusively and Nike take almost all the profit from every one sold. It's barely pennies in the pound to the club.
We get a £30m sum over 5 years and Nike make and sell the kits and set the price. Hence why Brighton, a much smaller club with a small deal, have cheaper Nike shirts.
This.
I have worked on these very contracts (though not the Spurs one). Nike pay the fee and get whatever they can make from selling the shirts around the world. Club only gets the profit from the ones they sell in the shop or online. Might be different for PSG and Barca but I doubt it.

No doubt if Messi was moving from an Adidas team to a Nike team the team might go to Nike and renegotiate before he signed as Nike would in that instance gain sales. In the case of Messi they dont increase their sales with this move, just a different club shirt they are selling.

The figures are also very misleading
"£100 million in shirt sales!"
Minus -
Vat @20%
Retailers Cut 30-50%
Cost of manufacture/shipping 10%
Already were down to somewhere between £20-40m

There are plenty of marketing opportunities to make big money off superstar players - sponsorship, hospitality and exhibition matches - but shirt sales isn't the big one.
 
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