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Ex-Spurs Player Tanguy Ndombele

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Alasdair Gold's TFC podcast had interesting insight on Ndombele:


24:41-27:55

"The usual cycle of Ndombele is to: work hard, play well, everyone starts to praise you, believe your own hype, want to play at a higher level, strop, ask for a move, don't get the move, start at square one again."

"The thrust of it is Ndombele wants to play for the biggest clubs in the world, he feels that's his level."
With the level of effort the chap puts in at present he would struggle to get minutes at Accrington Stanley. Sounds like he has a poor attitude and mentality.
 
What did you think of the Ali Gold quotes?
According to Ali Gold it's Ndombele's attitude/ego that's the problem correct?

But then again, didn't ENIC/Levy do their due diligence on a player's fundamental character before spending a record fee on a player?

I'm not sure why we're just blaming Ndombele if that's just who he was to begin with. If we knowingly signed a player with attitude issues and didn't have what it took to change his attitude, then it's on management.
 
According to Ali Gold it's Ndombele's attitude/ego that's the problem correct?

But then again, didn't ENIC/Levy do their due diligence on a player's fundamental character before spending a record fee on a player?

I'm not sure why we're just blaming Ndombele if that's just who he was to begin with. If we knowingly signed a player with attitude issues and didn't have what it took to change his attitude, then it's on management.
That's a great question. Were the discussions mainly with the player or the player's agents? You wonder if management looked at Ndombele not so much as a player or part of the team but as an improvable asset for later sale. If that was the case they might of been so focused on his potential and the financial side that they never found out who the player was. The great irony is Ndombele is so overvalued the only way it possibly makes sense to sell him (or for one of the European teams to by him) is if gets himself together and does the things Spurs need him to do. They won't sell him at the kind of loss they would take now and he's damaged his reputation to the point the teams he wants to go to don't want him. It's one more really bad marriage neither party can get out of.
 
That's a great question. Were the discussions mainly with the player or the player's agents? You wonder if management looked at Ndombele not so much as a player or part of the team but as an improvable asset for later sale. If that was the case they might of been so focused on his potential and the financial side that they never found out who the player was. The great irony is Ndombele is so overvalued the only way it possibly makes sense to sell him (or for one of the European teams to by him) is if gets himself together and does the things Spurs need him to do. They won't sell him at the kind of loss they would take now and he's damaged his reputation to the point the teams he wants to go to don't want him. It's one more really bad marriage neither party can get out of.
Almost every job I can think of requires a background check of some type. It sounds to me like Levy/ENIC just overlooked this part and signed him because of his upside as you alluded to.

But there's zero excuse not to do an extensive background check when you're spending 60 million on someone. Just none.
 
So as the excuses run dry; it's time to blame Levy......

Yet:


"The fact that he wants you, it makes you want to come work with him. He was the one who shifted my decision.

"It is difficult to describe but he knows how to touch people, to leave a mark on people. He looked at me in the eyes and said: 'Come with me, I am sure that you will progress.'

"It is these types of little things that made me want to sign over there. I could see that he really, genuinely wanted me, that he genuinely liked me.""
 
So as the excuses run dry; it's time to blame Levy......

Yet:


"The fact that he wants you, it makes you want to come work with him. He was the one who shifted my decision.

"It is difficult to describe but he knows how to touch people, to leave a mark on people. He looked at me in the eyes and said: 'Come with me, I am sure that you will progress.'

"It is these types of little things that made me want to sign over there. I could see that he really, genuinely wanted me, that he genuinely liked me.""
Ok so lets say Ndombele was Poch's signing and Levy did Poch a favor.

Why would you fire Poch a few months into the season without giving him a real shot to run the squad with your record signing. To make matters worse, Levy brings in an egotistical dinosaur that pushes away everyone to run the squad.

Again, it's on Levy/ENIC however you want to spin it.
 
Ok so lets say Ndombele was Poch's signing and Levy did Poch a favor.

Why would you fire Poch a few months into the season without giving him a real shot to run the squad with your record signing. To make matters worse, Levy brings in an egotistical dinosaur that pushes away everyone to run the squad.

Again, it's on Levy/ENIC however you want to spin it.

Ahhhh, the excuses haven't quite dried up afterall then...... As you were.
 
According to Ali Gold it's Ndombele's attitude/ego that's the problem correct?

This is the quote:

Alasdair Gold's TFC podcast had interesting insight on Ndombele:


24:41-27:55

"The usual cycle of Ndombele is to: work hard, play well, everyone starts to praise you, believe your own hype, want to play at a higher level, strop, ask for a move, don't get the move, start at square one again."

"The thrust of it is Ndombele wants to play for the biggest clubs in the world, he feels that's his level."
 
So as the excuses run dry; it's time to blame Levy......

Yet:


"The fact that he wants you, it makes you want to come work with him. He was the one who shifted my decision.

"It is difficult to describe but he knows how to touch people, to leave a mark on people. He looked at me in the eyes and said: 'Come with me, I am sure that you will progress.'

"It is these types of little things that made me want to sign over there. I could see that he really, genuinely wanted me, that he genuinely liked me.""
Show us where Poch touched you...

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Anyone ever met Ali gold out of interest? Good sort? Knows his shit? Finger on pulse? Inside info and all that?
I don't know him and have never met him. But inside info - yes. The mean interpretation of his role is that he's a client journalist - trading a level of independence for close access to the club. Flip side is he gets 'tidbits' early and he is reliable with no bullshit. FWIW I think he's pretty good and much better than most of the people out there at the moment.
 
there are over 300,000 french people in london (it's been widely touted as France's 6th biggest city) and it has practically the same weather as northern france. If he wants to live a french lifestyle at spurs, he can.
The problem lies somewhere else I think
This, this and again this. "Adapting to life in London" my hole. It's hardly Chad or rural Uzbekistan.

He's a fucking millionaire, he's not having to get used to a shared bedsit in Canning Town after life in a Louis XIV palace. The ultra-rich have fuck all to adapt to anyway, they go from living a life of unreal luxury in place A to living in the same way in place B
 
This is what Ali Gold said on TFC podcast about Tanguy:

"the cycle of Tanguy Ndombele. It's the same thing every time. It's work hard, play well, everyone starts to praise you. Believe your own hype. Want to play at a higher level. Strop. Ask for a move. Don't get a move. Start at square 1 again"

This sounds right. Maybe the way spurs have been the last few years, yeah maybe he is better than us. sadly. But, and this is where his mentality needs to change: he should want to bring US up to his 'standards'. Kane and Sonny and Hugo have been doing just that. Very selfish and ungrateful mentality that one has.
 
This, this and again this. "Adapting to life in London" my hole. It's hardly Chad or rural Uzbekistan.

He's a fucking millionaire, he's not having to get used to a shared bedsit in Canning Town after life in a Louis XIV palace. The ultra-rich have fuck all to adapt to anyway, they go from living a life of unreal luxury in place A to living in the same way in place B
and as you and I well know about ex-pats in Spain. If they want to live a completely english lifestyle only eating at english restaurants and drinking at ex-pat pubs, hiring english workmen and not speaking a damn word of spanish, they seem to manage to do that perfectly easily. I've had a long time observing them with a metaphorical clipboard
 
This, this and again this. "Adapting to life in London" my hole. It's hardly Chad or rural Uzbekistan.

He's a fucking millionaire, he's not having to get used to a shared bedsit in Canning Town after life in a Louis XIV palace. The ultra-rich have fuck all to adapt to anyway, they go from living a life of unreal luxury in place A to living in the same way in place B
Spot on - the bubble for the super rich replicates itself all over the world. Global commerce and economies.
 
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