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Ex-Spurs Player Harry Kane

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Gobbygonk said:
Hope the fair-weather critics on here apologise to Harry Kane. Maybe they wanted to spend the m,oney on Rondon or Joelinton/ Glad the board ignored the morons who wanted to sell Kane on this forum.

They are Crystal Palace fans IMO.
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To be fair, he has deserved criticism this season. Anyone who has wrote him off completely, and there hasn't been many at all, are numpties at best. But he has definitely been well out of sorts and has lacked any sort of sharpness in his overall game this season.

He stayed up top more often that not against Newcastle and looked much better for it. He's a brilliant passer when he's on top of his game but I don't want to see him drop deep time and again and then spend a lot of the time looking knackered in games, and like he's barely able to run at times. Let other players do the creating. Stay up top and do what you do best.
 
Airfixx said:
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Played a lot more like a CF today. 👍
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That's a good side.
 
Gobbygonk said:
Hope the fair-weather critics on here apologise to Harry Kane. Maybe they wanted to spend the m,oney on Rondon or Joelinton/ Glad the board ignored the morons who wanted to sell Kane on this forum.

They are Crystal Palace fans IMO.
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He had a great game and he'll have other great games.
But it doesn't change the fact he's getting older, his value is going to drop, he doesn't want to be here and we have a chairman who won't go and buy a world class replacement when in 3 years when Kanes contract runs out.

We should have sold.
 
In the past years, Kane would have probably thought about taking a shot for the 3rd goal instead of crossing and shot it at the keeper. Now that his stock is low, he thought about passing first and made the right choice.
 
Gobbygonk said:
Hope the fair-weather critics on here apologise to Harry Kane. Maybe they wanted to spend the m,oney on Rondon or Joelinton/ Glad the board ignored the morons who wanted to sell Kane on this forum.

They are Crystal Palace fans IMO.
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Nobody is going to apologise. We appreciate him when he performs. Did you forget he is paid handsomely?
 
Airfixx said:
It's not a comment upon formation/tactics.

A few games ago his heat map showed him stuck out on the left wing for the bulk of the game.

For England and Spurs he's regularly caught (and criticised for being) too deep to be in and around the box to be an option for the final ball.

Whether these things were managerially directed or not, these are just facts.

......And no he didn't magically become sharp/fit since last Tuesday's England game. He hasn't got the legs to play like a box 2 box MF (albeit with another 18 yards bolted onto the remit!) - rare that a player of his size would - but he ought to be able to run within the confines of a more traditional CF positioning and he showed yesterday that he is still capable of doing so.

Was there also a mental shift from where his head has been at the last couple of months too? Hopefully so....
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Does a heat map show when he shoots wide?
 
NDomBadBoy said:
I'm sorry for calling you a world class flat track bully Harry

Your good performance against Newcastle has completely changed my opinion
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I asked sammyspurs this question and he just skirted around the answer and started blabbing about other shit. So I'll ask you. What world-class striker doesn't fill their boots more often than not against the lesser sides in any league? Lewandowski does it just about every weekend... All while playing for one of the best two or three teams in the world.
 
TylerB said:
I asked sammyspurs this question and he just skirted around the answer and started blabbing about other shit. So I'll ask you. What world-class striker doesn't fill their boots more often than not against the lesser sides in any league? Lewandowski does it just about every weekend... All while playing for one of the best two or three teams in the world.
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You apparently don't follow this thread closely. I've addressed this many times.

If you don't think the Bundesliga is good enough then fine.

As a statistical reference, Lewandowski does have 32 goals and 6 assists in 26 apps in the Champions League over the last 3 seasons.

During this time period, he's got 10 goals in 10 apps against the following top top sides: Liverpool, Barcelona, Chelsea, PSG, Ajax.

Flat track bully? No, Lewandowski is not a flat track bully whatsoever.
 
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TylerB said:
I asked sammyspurs this question and he just skirted around the answer and started blabbing about other shit. So I'll ask you. What world-class striker doesn't fill their boots more often than not against the lesser sides in any league? Lewandowski does it just about every weekend... All while playing for one of the best two or three teams in the world.
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I didn’t skirt around it whatsoever

I said the difference between world class strikers filling their boots against poor teams is that they ALSO do it regularly against big clubs, or even against smaller clubs but in vital moments, key moments in a season, and they win stuff by contributing in finals.

It’s a definitive answer which takes your point into consideration and even verifies it.

The difference between me and you is that you like to stop Kane’s story where it’s very convenient.
 
I think the most intresting thing about Harry's performance was the feeling that he was out of his own head for the first time this season. He has had a sulk he behaved poorly and he did himself no favours in the hearts of people (me included) who frankly loved the man.

So has he reconciled himself to this relationship? I hope so because it was obvious his mood HAS effected the changing room. Prehaps most telling for me yesterday was the reaction of his team mates when VAR gave him the goal. A few have felt slighted but none doubted his importance as Lucas went on the record to attest. Fit motivated Kane is an asset lets hope that's what we get. N'dombele posting a picture of Kane on Instagram with the title 'The big boss' says it all.
 
TylerB said:
I asked sammyspurs this question and he just skirted around the answer and started blabbing about other shit. So I'll ask you. What world-class striker doesn't fill their boots more often than not against the lesser sides in any league? Lewandowski does it just about every weekend... All while playing for one of the best two or three teams in the world.
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To further my point above, lets leave Lewandowski out of it and call him an outlier. For the sake of discussion, lets just keep it to just Spurs players and what they've done since the beginning of the last season against a big 4 PL side:

Open play goals against the Big 4 since 18/19 season:
  • Kane = 4 goals
  • Son = 11 goals
*Big 4 = Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd, City

Argue that Kane hasn't been playing for a good team all you want. But his own teammates has owned him when it comes to scoring against the elite PL sides. 4 goals against the Big 4 over the last 3.5 years is not good at all.
 
NDomBadBoy said:
To further my point above, lets leave Lewandowski out of it and call him an outlier. For the sake of discussion, lets just keep it to just Spurs players and what they've done since the beginning of the last season against a big 4 PL side:

Open play goals against the Big 4 since 18/19 season:
  • Kane = 4 goals
  • Son = 11 goals
*Big 4 = Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd, City

Ok argue that Kane hasn't been playing for a good team all you want. But his own teammates has owned him when it comes to scoring against the elite PL sides.
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But my point was that every top striker scores most of their goals against lesser/worse clubs. You've not said anything that has disproven that.

If Kane played for a side as good as Bayern he would have plenty more goals against the top sides in the Champions League.
 
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