I was clearly joking
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Management Nuno out
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Loris, Dier, Davies, Winks, Moura, Son, Kane, GLC, Ndombele, Dele, Sanchez, Sessegnon and arguably Skipp, Tanganga and White are all still here and were all there for Poch when he lost it and got sacked.
He can't come back to this squad and turn it around. At least half the players on that list need to go before he comes back and we need a decent scout to replace them as we'r failing at that too.
It felt it at the time, and maybe it was, but nobody that's followed in his footsteps has performed demonstrably better than we can say Poch would have had he been given more time/funds to steady the ship and rebuild.
I'm not about to argue that keeping him on would have been a sure thing, but with hindsight I strongly doubt we'd be in a worse position than we are now. At the very least he wanted to see us entertained.
The drop from Poch to Jose was far worse than Jose to Nuno. Nuno is about par with Jose when you look at the results;
20/21:
West Ham (a) L
Newcastle (a) D
Aston Villa (h) N/A (Mason)
Woolwich (a) L
Chelsea (h) L
Crystal Palace (a) D
WBA (h) W (replacing Watford)
Wolves (a) D
Man City (h) W
Nuno is currently 3 points up. We’ve stepped sideways.
We have no idea how much worse it would have got if we hadn't moved Poch out. Mourinho wasn't that far away from CL football. We seemed to be getting close to the bottom half under Poch.
It wasn't that clear but happy to look like a lemon in this instance.
Play attacking football but still finish 7th/8th, that's not good enough me. Sounds like something the likes of West Ham, Palace, Brentford would be happy with.
It's still preferable to playing shit football and finishing 7th/8th which is what is currently happening week in week out.
I think Newcastle still owed us money for Yedlin, which probably was get another financial incentive to 'do a deal' as Levy likes to put it. Finance over football again.
Poch didn't even want him ffs and he was shite for us for the majority of his time here.
Steve Bruce??? LOL!
It's possible that it's all about the aesthetics when comparing Mourinho to Nuno, the results and football are much of a muchness between the two, but at least Mourinho was charismatic and things were often entertaining off the pitch if not on it.
Beyond that, there was the glimmer of hope that his past resume provided, and he did manager to tap into the Kane/Son partnership to some extent.
In the news today is that Newcastle, who have had new owners for a few weeks, are in talks with Marc Overmars to become DoF, a role he's had for 9 years at Ajax and seemingly done a very good job at it.
So after a few weeks in the game, the Newcastle owners have identified they need a proper footballing person in charge and are going for a good candidate.
So after a few weeks in the game, the Newcastle owners have identified they need a proper footballing person in charge and are going for a good candidate.
Not that much more preferable.
Saying it was the right time for Poch to go is daft.
Yes it was, but only in the same way it's the right thing to go to a hospital after you've been shot.
Ideally you wouldn't get shot in the first place.
The problems were literally the direct consequence of severe underinvestment.
If Pool or City backed their managers like we did it would have been "right" for Pep and Klopp to go too, many many seasons ago.
Let's be sensible and not try to make ourselves feel better for wrongly ever being Poch out.
Yes it was, but only in the same way it's the right thing to go to a hospital after you've been shot.
Ideally you wouldn't get shot in the first place.
The problems were literally the direct consequence of severe underinvestment.
If Pool or City backed their managers like we did it would have been "right" for Pep and Klopp to go too, many many seasons ago.
Let's be sensible and not try to make ourselves feel better for wrongly ever being Poch out.
Finishing 9th/10th with Nuno playing suicide worthy football is better?
IIRC, we wanted Kante but he was a £200k a week player on top of the £30m fee.
Sissoko was a "bit like Kante" but only wanted £70k a week
Made good business sense.
The time was right because he'd had enough and wanted the sack. There is no two ways about it.
I would literally swap Sam Allardyce for Nuno right now
Yes but why did he have enough and want the sack?
Did you even read my post
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