Obviously it's not the promised land we all dream of, but surely anybody would rather finish 7/8th and be entertained than finish 7/8th and be bored shitless???
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The Poch situation became untenable precisely because he wasn’t listened to.
We lost a great coach and before that we lost a great head of recruitment in Paul Mitchell for similar reasons.
The problem was not just underinvestment it was the fact we made some really poor acquisitions as well. Aurier, Sissoko and Jansen were all awful purchases. Then we signed Llorente as one upping Chelsea was stupid as hell even with his handball goal against Man City. We have had zero plan when it comes to transfers it seems that we are currently fire fighting when it comes to transfers. We need a plan how to get back to where we were. We need to identify who should still be at Spurs and get rid of the rest no matter what.
A great coach that couldn't win away from home or make substitutions before the hour mark.
A great coach that won nothing.
A great coach that seemingly wanted GLC, Ndombele and Sessegnon particularly badly.
A great coach that won nothing.
A great coach that seemingly wanted GLC, Ndombele and Sessegnon particularly badly.
Worse than that, pretty sure it's stated directly in Poch's book that he was intended to do the job that Mane did/does at Southampton/Liverpool, a pacey wide player to break the lines and open teams up...IIRC, we wanted Kante but he was a £200k a week player on top of the £30m fee.
Sissoko was a "bit like Kante" but only wanted £70k a week
Made good business sense.
Actually, I think I've just convinced myself again that Poch had lost the plot and had to go...
I did and I don't dispute your logic. But there was no coming back from it. Levy wasn't gonna suddenly flog 3/4 of the squad and give Poch a ton of money to rebuild. Another reason I don't think Poch should come back until all those players are gone and Levy is well out of the way.
I don't think Poch was particularly good at scouting. Good at coaching players if they were receptive but not good at finding players.Worse than that, pretty sure it's stated directly in Poch's book that he was intended to do the job that Mane did/does at Southampton/Liverpool, a pacey wide player to break the lines and open teams up...
Actually, I think I've just convinced myself again that Poch had lost the plot and had to go...
I agree with you. I would just consider those poor purchases to fall under underinvestment as they were cheap options compared to the first choice (Mane, Wijnaldum, Grealish etc).
Your boy signed Gedson, Doherty, Joe Hart, managed to ruin Bale’s homecoming, failed to beat a top 10 team in 4 months and lost to a team whose manager was in prison.
The problem is that all the things that would have been necessary to keep Poch happy are things that would need to be done now to attract ANY good manager.
That’s levy’s fault. It wasn’t Poch that pushed away Paul Mitchell was it?
It wasn’t Poch that balked at Mane and got Sissoko last minute.
1 Coupe de France with the best team in the League funded by oily financial doping in a 13 year management career.
Yeah, bring him back, he will work wonders with this squad. Don't eat the Memberberries. Every other club that was around us has strengthened more than we have since he left.
Yeah, bring him back, he will work wonders with this squad. Don't eat the Memberberries. Every other club that was around us has strengthened more than we have since he left.
So we hire a guy who's only interested in coming here because he's being paid shitloads of money? How did that workout last time? We are bigger than Leicester for sure but we don't act like it. They've won two trophies to our one during ENIC's time. They go out and get Daka, while we fumble about with a loan signing and a 17 year old kid who is not ready. We have been merked by Leicester. He's not coming here forget it. Potter there is no reason for him to leave Brighton for us, United or Woolwich job could come up, those clubs actually have lots of money to spend in their quest to be top 4.
On the evidence we have I'd have to agree, but it's blurred a little by the fact that we don't know how much was him wanting these players and how much was them just being the best of the bunch that was offered to him.
As it is written in his book, he was offered Sissoko and agreed to the signing, we don't know what the alternatives were at the point that he approved it, if any. Seems to me Sissoko was a case of might as well have him than not.
We also loosely know what happened when Poch decided not to compromise on what he wanted, we ended up with nobody.
That's not good either but the limit of our ambition shouldn't be just to get 7/8 playing attacking football.
West Ham will finish above us for a start.
You say that now but I don't believe anybody deep down is going to be happy with that, while West Ham and Leicester finish above us.
We hire a guy who is better at his job than the yes man we have to come in for few years. That's the crux of it.
I don't care if he or anyone comes for the money rather than any kind of love. I just want an actual football coach with ambitions higher than finishing top half and a cup run to maybe a quarter final.
I sold my United ticket this weekend.
I don't want to waste 6 hours of my day for dire football anymore.
Not happy, but happier and that's a start.
There's also the thought, for me at least, that if you get our squad playing well again then I find it hard to believe we wouldn't finish higher up the table than we will playing as we are.
However, maybe that's just me not quite fully accepting how far we have regressed over the last 3 years.
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