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Transfers January 2022 - Transfer Window

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From Italian press

The Juventus exit market moves. According to what reported by Calciomercato.com, the bianconeri are in fact thinking of letting Dejan Kulusevski and Weston McKennie leave. The two players, thanks to their young age, have many requests and their eventual sale would fill the club's coffers.

On the Swede and the American there is strong pressure from Tottenham, eager to strengthen in January to relaunch in the Premier League. Kulusevski and McKennie particularly like Fabio Paratici who would like to give them to Antonio Conte to give him a competitive squad. It was Paratici himself who brought the two players to Turin and the current Spurs transfer man would now like to have them transferred to London.

For ilbianconero.com, the Londoners would like to offer the bianconeri a double exchange. To have the two Juventus players, Tottenham is willing to put Tanguy Ndombele and Japhet Tanganga on the plate. The French midfielder is now considered a redundant in all respects, so much so that the Spurs have offered him to several teams. However, his profile does not thrill the Juventus management.

The English defender will find much less space with Romero's return and his stay in North London is also not guaranteed. Tanganga seems to interest him slightly more, but on him there is also the interest of Milan who, as we know, are looking for a central. His card is worth 25 million euros.
 
McKennie-for-Ndombele again, against all odds, lowering the squad’s technical ability.

I like McKennie and I think he’s the winning kind of shithead more than the losing kind, if that makes sense, but I don’t think he’s the profile we’re crying out for in MF.
 
VonnegutBusy said:
What has Bergjwin's contribution to the first team been this season? Sweet F.A.

Hardly takes much to replace him.

We will need another attacker if we (as we should) also ship out Ndombele and Dele. That's where the likes of Vlahovic (dream on), De Ketalare, Kusuklevski come in.

But Traore is an upgrade on both Doherty and Bergjwin imo so I quite like the idea. Agree and hope that he is primarily used as a RWB but don't think it's a big issue if he also covers Berg's limited minutes.
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It's not about what Berg hasn't done this season; it's about what we need in relation to depth/rotation/quality from whoever he gets replaced with.

Traore to replace Doh AND Berg just stretches our depth even more.



People are too carried away with binning off their least favourite players (and in some cases I get the ill feeling)..... Yet at the end of the day no-one should be allowed to leave without replacement and we shouldn't allow ourselves to end the window with less players than we started with.
 
Airfixx said:
It's not about what Berg hasn't done this season; it's about what we need in relation to depth/rotation/quality from whoever he gets replaced with.

Traore to replace Doh AND Berg just stretches our depth even more.



People are too carried away with binning off their least favourite players (and in some cases I get the ill feeling)..... Yet at the end of the day no-one should be allowed to leave without replacement and we shouldn't allow ourselves to end the window with less players than we started with.
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You would hope the club is at least 1 in 1 out. If Doherty and Berg go then say Traore and De Virj come in.
 
Airfixx said:
It's not about what Berg hasn't done this season; it's about what we need in relation to depth/rotation/quality from whoever he gets replaced with.

Traore to replace Doh AND Berg just stretches our depth even more.



People are too carried away with binning off their least favourite players (and in some cases I get the ill feeling)..... Yet at the end of the day no-one should be allowed to leave without replacement and we shouldn't allow ourselves to end the window with less players than we started with.
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In my opinion Adama would be capable of covering Doherty and Bergjwin's limited minutes (and being a better option than both).

You have to consider their contribution because in this case we need only one player to cover both positions rather than shelling out on a RWB and a back up forward. That frees up funds to use elsewhere.

Similarly I'd take one competent CM (e.g. Kessie/Brozovic) and ship out both Ndombele and Lo Celso in a heartbeat. Precisely because they have contributed so little over an extended period of time. This would improve the team.

It's not about replacing man for man or having X number of players in the squad it's about having a strong core group who are available more often than not and have the required mentality and quality.
 
bus-conductor said:
I really think we are going about this wrong right now. Instead of procrastinating about spending 80m (eg Vlahovic) on a possible Kane replacement, because we can't make up our minds about Kane fucking off, we'd be much better off going for a more versatile option - someone like Rafa Leao (Milan) - who can play as a 9, but also play as a wide forward or tandem forward - that way he gets to play games with or without Kane. He won't cost much more than 45m.
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I think this is where the De Ketelaere links apply. Looks to be young, cheapish, tall enough to be a target man (to play in a 2), also plays out on the right or as a more traditional 10.
 
scarletjim said:
Sorry but surely you can't mean that? So if someone offered us £1m for him you think we should take it? We'd very quickly be bankrupt if we took that approach to all of our flop signings...
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Some one has already offered us 18m euro's though. So we would take that.
That's a good wedge of cash for an unwanted player no one else is trying to buy.

We demanded loads for Kane and got nothing. Learn.
 
VonnegutBusy said:
In my opinion Adama would be capable of covering Doherty and Bergjwin's limited minutes (and being a better option than both).
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Particularly in the case of Berg.... If he was available more; we'd have rotated more.

Sonny is out injured. One more and it's a disaster.

VonnegutBusy said:
You have to consider their contribution because in this case we need only one player to cover both positions rather than shelling out on a RWB and a back up forward. That frees up funds to use elsewhere.
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I understand the sense of economy here, but above is still the prevailing concern for me.

VonnegutBusy said:
Similarly I'd take one competent CM (e.g. Kessie/Brozovic) and ship out both Ndombele and Lo Celso in a heartbeat. Precisely because they have contributed so little over an extended period of time. This would improve the team.
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Touche..... With regard to CM; I can support this idea more cos we'd have stronger depth as a result in a position where we desperately need addiional quality (rather than bodies).... TN/GLC/Dele just cannot be relied upon even against the worst of oppo.

VonnegutBusy said:
It's not about replacing man for man or having X number of players in the squad it's about having a strong core group who are available more often than not and have the required mentality and quality.
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As above, whilst I concur in the case of CM, everywhere else the numbers matter.
 
Matt1882 said:
Some one has already offered us 18m euro's though. So we would take that.
That's a good wedge of cash for an unwanted player no one else is trying to buy.

We demanded loads for Kane and got nothing. Learn.
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That's not what you said though:
"Whatever anyone is willing to pay is acceptable."

Clearly you didn't actually mean what you said, which is what I thought must surely be the case - thank god for that! :)
 
Airfixx said:
Particularly in the case of Berg.... If he was available more we''d have rotated more.

Sonny is out injured. One more and it's a disaster.



I understand the sense of economy here, but above is still the prevailing concern for me.



Touche..... With regard to CM; I can support this idea more cos we'd have stronger depth as a result in a position where we desperately need addiional quality (rather than bodies).... TN/GLC/Dele just cannot be relied upon even against the worst of oppo.



As above, whilst I concur in the case of CM, everywhere else the numbers matter.
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I would be happy with, say, Traore and De Ketalare in and Berg, Dele and Ndombele out as far as attackers go.

I wouldn't stall on selling Bergjwin however if we are confident of other deals being done later. There will always be a timing difference with these deals.
 
VonnegutBusy said:
I would be happy with, say, Traore and De Ketalare in and Berg, Dele and Ndombele out as far as attackers go.
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CM is the priority position IMO..... Dele & TN out with no CM in wouldn't impress me at all.

Berg <> De Ket = fine.

or

Berg <>Traore (not a fan but c'est la vie) = fine.

Robbing 'Peter' (i.e. CM) to pay Paul (attack) solves little.

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I wouldn't stall on selling Bergjwin however if we are confident of other deals being done later. There will always be a timing difference with these deals.
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Indeed.... The chain of events is meaningless.. The net effect is all that matters.
 
TheRealTI said:
I don't think you're understanding the point I'm making - to be fair it could be I wasn't clear enough as well.

My point is not that Kane is sitting with Levy on transfer decisions telling him to not bring in another CF.

My point is we all know Harry wants to play every single minute to score as many goals as possible because he's extremely motivated by breaking records. He wants to play 90 minutes in "lesser" matches because it allows him to rack up goals.

As a club, we've acquiesced to that. He's been undroppable by managers, he's been unsubbale even. He's been rushed onto the pitch the moment HE declares himself fit. We've likely convinced him to stay for so many years because we've said we will do that, we will make him the main man, we'll let him play whenever we want, we won't bring in competition for him, etc.

A knock on effect of that philosophy is promising, young strikers don't come here because they know they won't get game time.

That is what I meant.
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Cool story. I’m not into fan fiction, though.

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Airfixx said:
It's not about what Berg hasn't done this season; it's about what we need in relation to depth/rotation/quality from whoever he gets replaced with.

Traore to replace Doh AND Berg just stretches our depth even more.



People are too carried away with binning off their least favourite players (and in some cases I get the ill feeling)..... Yet at the end of the day no-one should be allowed to leave without replacement and we shouldn't allow ourselves to end the window with less players than we started with.
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Agree...feels a bit like the knee jerk "sell the lot of em!" is in full force around here.

Bit like me when I used to play Football Manager & would sell half the squad in the summer and end up with a threadbare squad because I either ran out of time; transfer budget; or usually both....!

Berg may not be what we hoped but he has proven himself quite a decent squad option.
 
I think we should look more often in Bundesliga. The salary is not so high and their are many interesting players.
RWB: Frimpong -Leverkusen
CM:Zakaria - Gladbach -can play cm and CB
CF: Schick - Leverkusen
COM: Nkunku and Diaby - Leipzig and Leverkusen
 
McCOYS said:
Just read RM want to buy Mbappe and may be looking to sell Rodrygo to help raise funds.

''Rodrygo is exceptionally quick and is accomplished at taking defenders on, although he does need to work on his end product, but at 21 years old he still has plenty of room to develop as a player.

He could be the perfect right-winger for Antonio Conte's Tottenham Hotspur given he works hard, excels in transitions and presses from the front when needed.

In fact, the youngster has registered a whopping 18 pressures per match in La Liga this season, considerably more than Lucas Moura, Son Heung-Min or Harry Kane have managed this term.''
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If they do they'll demand a buyback, they have form for that and rarely let half decent players leave without one.
 
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