Urgency. And relatively close to Milan. :contethumb:
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In that specific instance, no.
Quite a few of us with good memories of those times - seems almost incomprehensible now that a player would leave Spurs for Rangers with Rangers fees too big to turn down once player had decided to go.
Real shame we ended with neither Gough nor Butcher
Thanks for that, just listened to it, very interesting character Pleat, very knowledgeable and honest, so much experience and so many insights to share, would love to sit down and have a chat with him about his time in football.Not for here really but David Pleat goes into it in his spurs show interview. It is quite an interesting listen. It was to do with his wife wanting to go back to Scotland and a bit about the financials. But what I didnt know was that when we signed Gough it was between him and Terry Butcher. Pleat wanted Butcher but Scoular wanted Gough because of his age and the possibility of selling him on.
Racist?Game of different opinions but yours is absolute garbage and has both racist and sizeist undertones
Who is your RWB choice?
NAME | CLUB | POS | AGE | CONTRACT | TMARKT |
EBIOWEI | DERBY | ST | 18 | 2022 |
![]() Malcolm Ebiowei - Transfer historyMalcolm Ebiowei, 19, from England ➤ Hull City, since 2022 ➤ Right Winger ➤ Market value: €3.00m ➤ * Sep 4, 2003 in London, England
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RICHARLISON | EVERTON | AM | 25 | 2024 |
![]() Richarlison - Player profile 22/23Richarlison, 25, from Brazil ➤ Tottenham Hotspur, since 2022 ➤ Centre-Forward ➤ Market value: €55.00m ➤ * May 10, 1997 in Nova Venécia, Brazil
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BASTONI | INTER | LCB | 23 | 2024 |
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RAUM | HOFFENHEIM | LB | 24 | 2026 |
![]() David Raum - Player profile 22/23David Raum, 24, from Germany ➤ RB Leipzig, since 2022 ➤ Left-Back ➤ Market value: €20.00m ➤ * Apr 22, 1998 in Nürnberg, Germany
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KOSTIC | E FRANKFURT | LMID | 29 | 2023 |
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BISSOUMA | BRIGHTON | MID | 25 | 2023 |
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PERESIC | INTER | LMID | 33 | 2022 |
![]() Ivan Perisic - Player profile 22/23Ivan Perisic, 34, from Croatia ➤ Tottenham Hotspur, since 2022 ➤ Left Midfield ➤ Market value: €10.00m ➤ * Feb 2, 1989 in Split, Jugoslawien (SFR)
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FOFANA | LEICESTER | CB | 21 | 2027 |
![]() Wesley Fofana - Player profile 22/23Wesley Fofana, 22, from France ➤ Chelsea FC, since 2022 ➤ Centre-Back ➤ Market value: €65.00m ➤ * Dec 17, 2000 in Marseille, France
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MAJER | STADE RENNAIS | AM | 24 | 2026 |
![]() Lovro Majer - Player profile 22/23Lovro Majer, 25, from Croatia ➤ Stade Rennais FC, since 2021 ➤ Attacking Midfield ➤ Market value: €20.00m ➤ * Jan 17, 1998 in Zagreb, Croatia
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COLLINS | BURNLEY | CB/DM | 21 | 2025 |
![]() Nathan Collins - Player profile 22/23Nathan Collins, 21, from Ireland ➤ Wolverhampton Wanderers, since 2022 ➤ Centre-Back ➤ Market value: €22.00m ➤ * Apr 30, 2001 in Leixlip, Ireland
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Bet you wouldn’t address a white Anglo Saxon in such a boorish manner - so why me? Is it because I’m black like Lamptey? I assume you are from Blackburn based on such casual racism
I stand by the 'if found innocent, he is innocent' view. Otherwise our justice system is worthless and people will continue to have their names dragged through the mud and their lives destroyed, for no reason.
Agree that we should wait for the investigation to be concluded, or have an agreement in place for IF he's found not guilty.
Just to be SUPER pedantic (so by all means tell me to do one), but our justice system doesn't assert innocence.
We have the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, but a court's verdict will be either guilty or not guilty.
This is because of the burden of proof. The prosecution are the ones making the claim that the defendant is guilty of the charges being brought against them, and therefore they bare the responsibility of meeting the burden of proof to substantiate that claim.
When a court finds a defendant not guilty, it's not because it has been proven that the defendant is innocent, but because the prosecution couldn't sufficiently demonstrate the defendant's culpability.
I agree that when found not guilty we need to accept the verdic, but it only absolves a defendant of the charges as specified during that particular case.
It doesn't demonstrate that absolutely no offence was commited whatsoever (hence why the verdict is not guilty, rather than innocent), so I think it's fair for some people to still have their reservations despite a not guilty verdict for the specific offence being discussed in the courts.
Does this make any sense or am I being a complete cock? Possibly both. Whatever. COYS and all that.
I’ve no idea what colour you are and font give a toss, you made a stupid remark and got absolute no reason called me racist.Bet you wouldn’t address a white Anglo Saxon in such a boorish manner - so why me? Is it because I’m black like Lamptey? I assume you are from Blackburn based on such casual racism
100% agree. How it should always be. Except for OJ. That dude was guilty as hell.I stand by the 'if found innocent, he is innocent' view. Otherwise our justice system is worthless and people will continue to have their names dragged through the mud and their lives destroyed, for no reason.
Agree that we should wait for the investigation to be concluded, or have an agreement in place for IF he's found not guilty.
Thanks for that, just listened to it, very interesting character Pleat, very knowledgeable and honest, so much experience and so many insights to share, would love to sit down and have a chat with him about his time in football.
Only problem was the hosts chipping in with inane drivel and stopping his flow, just infuriating at times.
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Bet you wouldn’t address a white Anglo Saxon in such a boorish manner - so why me? Is it because I’m black like Lamptey? I assume you are from Blackburn based on such casual racism
Ppl aren’t innocent until proven guilty. If they were then ppl would not be locked up for months or a year or more on suspicion of some serious offence while awaiting trial. Only to subsequently be found not guilty. But I do agree with you that ppl should not judge ppl before trial and if acquitted in a trial then ppl should not reach different conclusions because they think they know better. If he is found not guilty then treat as such. In Scotland they use “not proven” I think? Slightly different connotations involved as a result.Well that's just a pathetic comment, and I'm sick to death of people unwilling to accept if someone's been found not guilty by a court of law, just because they're formed their own judgmental opnions.
Innocent until proven guilty is supposed to be how our law works.
If guilty, then yes I would not want him at our club. If found not guilty, I see absolutely no issue whatsoever and he'd be an asset.