Management ENIC

[Honest John]

Even The High Priest of 'the Cult of Levy/ENIC Out' (who agreed with your post about being delighted if Ambramovich took over), thinks football is better off without him...

Not awkward...

Edit: BTW I wouldn't give a fuck who owned Spurs either if it meant titles and trophies.

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Absolutely. Seeing one of our biggest rivals bring home the bacon year after year was a bitter pill for most of us to swallow.

If only he'd bought out ENIC.

 

[Matt1882]

Those of you who hate ENIC, would you have been happy if Levy had taken (the alledged) call from Abramovich and sold up?

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Over the fucking moon.
We'd be massive by now. Chelsea would be nowhere to be seen and possibly Woolwich would be mid table at best

 

[Matt1882]

Yet I've seen Abramovich slated by the majority of Spurs fans across various forums/social media outlets for many years.

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People hate what they can't have.

The poor man hates the rich man, but he also would give his first born to BE the rich man.

 

[Honest John]

No brollies needed on Sunday chaps!!
Would take a scarf though, just to be warm, holding those placards can get a bit cold I reckon.

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Well, you would know, of course........

While we're all getting EVEN MORE pissed off, disillusioned, angry, upset, sad, annoyed, despondent, aggrieved, distressed, etc, etc, etc.

This cunt is laughing at us, the fans.

We were here before him, hopefully there is something of the club left after him.

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Will you be holding up the banner?

 

[SpiderSpurs]

People hate what they can't have.

The poor man hates the rich man, but he also would give his first born to BE the rich man.

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You've surpassed yourself with that gem of bollocks.

 

[Matt1882]

You've surpassed yourself with that gem of bollocks.

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So you're saying all those who get upset about rich people and slag them off something rotten, would all happily stay broke? They hate rich people so much they'd rather live in poverty because they don't want to be the person they hate? It's got nothing to do with jealousy at all, is that what you think?

Obviously the first born comment was creative exaggeration.



It's the 2nd born. They're usually the troubled ones.

 

[Ed Vanderlay]

So you're saying all those who get upset about rich people and slag them off something rotten, would all happily stay broke? They hate rich people so much they'd rather live in poverty because they don't want to be the person they hate? It's got nothing to do with jealousy at all, is that what you think?

Obviously the first born comment was creative exaggeration.



It's the 2nd born. They're usually the troubled ones.

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I’m a second born , now it all makes sense

 

[stevee]

If United had the choice of owners who skimmed 20% off the massive profit for themselves and spent the other 80% on superstars and world class players on massive wages, they'd have a rude fucking awakening when ENIC spend 95% of the profit on a training ground, a lick of paint and a few extra sears at Old Trafford and some new executive boxes and give them the 5% for some youth team l players and 3rd choice first teamers........they will lose their fucking minds Stevie


Fans want glory, not training grounds.

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I've heard it all now Matt.

Let's not be silly here.

1 billion pounds taken out of the club to line their own pockets, compared to zero pounds taken out of the club.

It's a no brainer.

 

[Kosher Kid]

I get your frustrations and I feel that way at times so I don't want to stoke the fire but some of your facts aren't quite fair.

You say Santini was sacked, but didn't he walk after a couple of games? I think his wife, or extended family decided London wasn't for them and he left. Jol was his assistant and stepped up - I have very fond memories of this time.

We had eyes on Europe, and Ramos was doing the business at Seville and Levy believed he could get him as Jol was going off the boil. It was handled very poorly as everyone knew, included Jol himself before the announcement was made. It was very disrespectful. Some say Ramos changed our diet and fitness regimes and if stuck with, it would have paid dividends in the long run, but the players didn't like it and seemed to be downing tools.

Carrick used us as a stepping stone, he was a northern boy at heart and wanted out, we refused Man U offers for several months until we really had no choice. It's not my opinion that Modric and Bale refused new contracts and one publicly refused to train, and the other, Modric agreed one more season with Levy and played brilliantly. Nothing we could of done. Berba, broke my heart when he went, he was 100% tapped up and it's there for all to read about. I nearly threw up when I saw him in the United offices on deadline day, it felt like I had been cheated on. You can't blame Levy for any of these transfers.

Dembele was shot, whilst an amazing player, he had been struggling with fitness for a couple of seasons and wanted to play in an easier league, it's a great shame as personally, I feel we could have got another season or two out of him. He was unique.

There are so many things Levy has done wrong but we should keep it to the things he is actually responsible for, otherwise we start sounding like a bunch of loons.

I hope none of this is patronising, it's certainly not my intention. I don't really know how I feel about everything. we've got three season tickets in the family so need to make a decision sometime soon. It's bitter sweet, we've got great facilities but are lacking in other areas, I feel this is in part to ENIC, but also very much down to sportswashing of other clubs around the globe, of which I want no part of.

So i'm on the fence. I see Conte perhaps going in the Summer, with Poch waiting in the wings. I'm not feeling great about this prospect but until he comes back it will always hang over us. Good or bad I just want it out the way. the transfer window is yet to open so it's hard to slate the team until it has concluded.

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With respect; you're not 'on the fence'.

You're defending how ENIC dealt with these matters.

Santini never bought a house in London. I personally think it was always Jol who was going to be manager.

I suspect that Levy paid Santini to give the whole thing credibility at the point it was announced.

Of course I have no proof but I doubt anyone would have accepted Jol as the manager, at the time, after the nine month 'search', had Levy announced it at the beginning of the 04 / 05 season when Santini was appointed after the Euros.

I am suggesting that Santini was a publicity stunt on a par with Rivaldo's fucking letter to pacify season ticket holders and members.

Carrick had spent years in London having joined West Ham's academy. Northern boy my arse.

Carrick left for the money and to join a club that had ambition to win. Levy was happy to be complicit because it turned his 2.5 million investment into 18 million after 2 seasons.

Carrick, Berbatov, Modric and Bale were all under contract to THFC.

They were sold because Levy and ENIC like a profit.

These people have corrupted the way Spurs supporters think about the club.

It's time for them to show some ambition or sell up.

Stop apologising on their behalf.

COYS

 

[Honest John]

With respect; you're not 'on the fence'.

You're defending how ENIC dealt with these matters.

Santini never bought a house in London. I personally think it was always Jol who was going to be manager.

I suspect that Levy paid Santini to give the whole thing credibility at the point it was announced.

Of course I have no proof but I doubt anyone would have accepted Jol as the manager, at the time, after the nine month 'search', had Levy announced it at the beginning of the 04 / 05 season when Santini was appointed after the Euros.

I am suggesting that Santini was a publicity stunt on a par with Rivaldo's fucking letter to pacify season ticket holders and members.

Carrick had spent years in London having joined West Ham's academy. Northern boy my arse.

Carrick left for the money and to join a club that had ambition to win. Levy was happy to be complicit because it turned his 2.5 million investment into 18 million after 2 seasons.

Carrick, Berbatov, Modric and Bale were all under contract to THFC.

They were sold because Levy and ENIC like a profit.

These people have corrupted the way Spurs supporters think about the club.

It's time for them to show some ambition or sell up.

Stop apologising on their behalf.

COYS

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Post of the Month

 

[WillWilliams]

My point is that in the 60’s 70’s and 80’s, a large number of teams enjoyed success, compared to now. The likes of the sides I mentioned had small periods where they were maybe not the best, but close to it. As did we.

So my reasoning is, since this is factually the case, it was easier to be successful back then than it is now. It’s my argument against “we were the greatest team ever until ENIC took over - we were never done hiring the open top bus”. It’s just not true.

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Look at this team.

Talk about building a team on a budget….. but yet won the UEFA cup. Maybe ENIC need to go non league for players……


Tony Parks - Spurs apprentice to professional
Danny Thomas - signed from Coventry £250k
Paul miller - Spurs apprentice to professional
Graham roberts - signed from non league Weymouth. £35k
Chris hughton - spurs apprentice to professional
Gary Stevens - signed from Brighton £350k
Micky hazard- Spurs apprentice to professional
Steve Perryman - Spurs apprentice to professional
Tony galvin - signed from non league Goole Town free
Steve Archibald - signed from aberdeen for £800k
Mark falco - spurs apprentice to professional


6 x apprentice to professional
2 x non league players.
Most expensive player £800k.

Different times…..

 

[LeeMcl]

Look at this team.

Talk about building a team on a budget….. but yet won the UEFA cup. Maybe ENIC need to go non league for players……


Tony Parks - Spurs apprentice to professional
Danny Thomas - signed from Coventry £250k
Paul miller - Spurs apprentice to professional
Graham roberts - signed from non league Weymouth. £35k
Chris hughton - spurs apprentice to professional
Gary Stevens - signed from Brighton £350k
Micky hazard- Spurs apprentice to professional
Steve Perryman - Spurs apprentice to professional
Tony galvin - signed from non league Goole Town free
Steve Archibald - signed from aberdeen for £800k
Mark falco - spurs apprentice to professional


6 x apprentice to professional
2 x non league players.
Most expensive player £800k.

Different times…..

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And Bill Nic doing the scouting…

 

[stevee]

With respect; you're not 'on the fence'.

You're defending how ENIC dealt with these matters.

Santini never bought a house in London. I personally think it was always Jol who was going to be manager.

I suspect that Levy paid Santini to give the whole thing credibility at the point it was announced.

Of course I have no proof but I doubt anyone would have accepted Jol as the manager, at the time, after the nine month 'search', had Levy announced it at the beginning of the 04 / 05 season when Santini was appointed after the Euros.

I am suggesting that Santini was a publicity stunt on a par with Rivaldo's fucking letter to pacify season ticket holders and members.

Carrick had spent years in London having joined West Ham's academy. Northern boy my arse.

Carrick left for the money and to join a club that had ambition to win. Levy was happy to be complicit because it turned his 2.5 million investment into 18 million after 2 seasons.

Carrick, Berbatov, Modric and Bale were all under contract to THFC.

They were sold because Levy and ENIC like a profit.

These people have corrupted the way Spurs supporters think about the club.

It's time for them to show some ambition or sell up.

Stop apologising on their behalf.

COYS

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Carrick, Berbatov, Modric, and Bale were all sold because they downed tools and, in effect, went on strike.

Let's not re write history here.

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Possibly not Modric, but he definitely asked to leave and was seriously unhappy that we didn't sell him to Chelsea the previous season.

 

[BROCKVILLE]

So you're saying all those who get upset about rich people and slag them off something rotten, would all happily stay broke? They hate rich people so much they'd rather live in poverty because they don't want to be the person they hate? It's got nothing to do with jealousy at all, is that what you think?

Obviously the first born comment was creative exaggeration.



It's the 2nd born. They're usually the troubled ones.

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Gawd, quite the philosopher you are. Love your generalisations. Sarcasm disclaimer (because you’re clearly not very bright). Your lack of understanding of class and wealth; and your very basic narrow mindedness is rather entertaining. Keep going, sir.

 

[Archie]

Bernie my old eco Norfolk mate.
I think you are being slightly unfair chum.
Before the evil Fagin years of Sugar and Levy we certainly were the dandy Warhol cavaliers of England.
Winning the FA cup was nearly as good as the league. Every school boys dream . We were the Kings winning it more than anyone.
Signing fancy ball playing elite players that came to us over a Man utd.
First club to achieve many things, unbelievable football at times . Maybe, probably the most successful club in the swinging 60's.
Two league titles these were ground breaking "push and run" and the first double. These weren't your bland forgotten George Graham title wins.
Give me 1951 to 1991 anyday.
Under Enic we will achieve nothing of the same stature and remain in constant disharmony. The penny pinching no hopers we are regarded by our rivals .
There were many ups and downs such as relegation but there was always hope .

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Well said sir

 

[For better or worse]

With respect; you're not 'on the fence'.

You're defending how ENIC dealt with these matters.

Santini never bought a house in London. I personally think it was always Jol who was going to be manager.

I suspect that Levy paid Santini to give the whole thing credibility at the point it was announced.

Of course I have no proof but I doubt anyone would have accepted Jol as the manager, at the time, after the nine month 'search', had Levy announced it at the beginning of the 04 / 05 season when Santini was appointed after the Euros.

I am suggesting that Santini was a publicity stunt on a par with Rivaldo's fucking letter to pacify season ticket holders and members.

Carrick had spent years in London having joined West Ham's academy. Northern boy my arse.

Carrick left for the money and to join a club that had ambition to win. Levy was happy to be complicit because it turned his 2.5 million investment into 18 million after 2 seasons.

Carrick, Berbatov, Modric and Bale were all under contract to THFC.

They were sold because Levy and ENIC like a profit.

These people have corrupted the way Spurs supporters think about the club.

It's time for them to show some ambition or sell up.

Stop apologising on their behalf.

COYS

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I’ve heard it all now. A manager paid to take a dive after a few months that ultimately goes on to tank the rest of his career. He was barely here any time, he wasn’t going to buy a house that quickly, managers never do.

As it’s been widely reported Carrick, Bale, Modric and Berba all wanted moves, and all but one (Modric) downed tools.

as I’ve said I’m not a Levy fan but I’m also not going to make stuff up as it just weakens the argument. I appreciate you don’t care for my opinion but there’s enough other stuff to lay at his feet without this

 

[skywalker68]

Absolutely. Seeing one of our biggest rivals bring home the bacon year after year was a bitter pill for most of us to swallow.

If only he'd bought out ENIC.

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Yes but look at it from the moral crusaders pov, our owners don't execute people so it's a win win.

 

[Furball man]

I don’t think Santini was a stooge , just a very poor coach , he’s done nowt since 2006

Speaking in 2005, Santini said he quit partly because he felt agreements with the club were broken, but he admitted he "dug his own grave" by agreeing to join the club before the end of Euro 2004

 

[skywalker68]

Those of you who hate ENIC, would you have been happy if Levy had taken (the alledged) call from Abramovich and sold up?

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Wouldn't you, seeing your team win every trophy in the game more than once.
We are run by a firm of accountants, who have no interest in success on the pitch.
If we win anything ( which is unlikely) it will be despite them not because of them.

 

[Richard Arlison]

Wouldn't you, seeing your team win every trophy in the game more than once.
We are run by a firm of accountants, who have no interest in success on the pitch.
If we win anything ( which is unlikely) it will be despite them not because of them.

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And now sold to a new owner who is going HARD in the paint on transfers whilst we stick to the budget. Who knows if these players work out but Chelsea fans will be enjoying it.

That’s the disconnect between what Levy/ENIC think fans want and what most fans want. Most of us can see the massive improvements in the club but the cold truth is that for most fans they want to see the club win more than anything else.